23 Minutes In Hell

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16 Oct 2007, 7:52 pm

Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, felt total isolation, and experienced the putrid and rotting stench, deafening screams of agony, terrorizing demons, and finally, the strong hand of God lifting him out of the pit.
"Tell them I am coming very, very soon!"
Wiese’s visit to the devil’s lair lasted just twenty-three minutes, but he returned with vivid details etched in his memory. Since this life-changing ordeal, he has spent the last seven years studying the Scriptures to find answers and has listed more than 150 Bible verses referencing hell.

Everyone is curious about the afterlife, and now Wiese shares his insights to commonly asked questions such as:
* Is hell a literal burning place?
* Where is hell?
* Do you have a body in hell?
* Are there Degrees of punishment in hell?
* Are there children in hell?
* Can Demons torment people in hell?
* Can "good" people go to hell?

"Even if you don’t believe my story, I hope you will believe the Scriptures and avoid hell just the same."

This is the summery for this book

I have been Reading this book and it is a really interesting read. This guy went to Hell and was taken out by the Lord. It gives you the actual words of the Lord and tells that he is not the one that cast people into Hell its the devil that brings people to Hell. Hell is not for us it is for the devil and his angels and he does not want us to go there. Jesus is your savior and he will not let you go to Hell it is a promise that he will bring you to Heaven where we all belong.
After his experience he studied the Bible for 7 years to find scripture on Hell and has spoken and been a good inspiration to many people who didn't know.

I urge you all to watch this video. Even if you don't beleave just give it a chance and see what you think.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4666093503

Now before you click that reply to flame please realize that I am not a fanatic who goes around constantly pretching and forcing my beliefs on anyone. I just felt compeled to come out and share this and not keep it all to myself.
After what this guy went through to give us this information and with the many people he has been a good influence on can you really see that as a bad thing?

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16 Oct 2007, 7:58 pm

scaring people to aviod disaster shure is a hell of a way to get people into heaven. if you cant reason with them, you might as well use fear to get them in. ive always found god to be contadictory myself. i wonder what kindof holy rightous all knowing god didnt make it absolutley clear himself, and why should he? man was divenly given his word. gods behind the scences though you better believe it

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16 Oct 2007, 8:13 pm

and one more thing, the bible sais that the devil is not in hell. i forget the scripture but when the angels and lucifer presented themselves to god, god asked lucifer where he was. and he said something like walking back and forth on the earth, or something. i guess you could say the earth is hell but common now. i'll find the exact phrase in a minute.

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16 Oct 2007, 8:16 pm

It is written in the first chapter of Job that when Satan presented himself before God, He asked him, "Whence commest thou?" Lucifer answers "From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."

so either hell doesnt exist yet, or its just another contradiction. and why wouldnt god know where satan was? isnt he supose to know everything? i mean maybe god thought he was gonna lie to him? :lol:

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16 Oct 2007, 9:14 pm

wikipedia wrote:

Bill Wiese is an American Christian Evangelist. He claims that he passed out and spent 23 minutes in hell. He has appeared on the 700 club to promote his ideas. He also claims that you have to accept Jesus Christ as your savior to be saved from hell. He claims being a "good person" is not enough. [[1]] He also wrote a book in 2006 on hell titled 23 minutes in hell. It is currently the number one best selling book in the religious warfare section of Amazon.com. [[2]] Also, he has given many seminars which have been posted on video sites like Youtube. [[3]]

In other words, yeah, this is pretty much bunk. This just seems another attempt to exploit the masses by instilling fear into them, a lousy attempt to claim a moral high ground by condemning others, and then to makes lots of money off of it.

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16 Oct 2007, 9:16 pm

"23 Minutes in Hell" would be a good title for today's staff meeting at work.

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16 Oct 2007, 10:38 pm

Xenon wrote:

"23 Minutes in Hell" would be a good title for today's staff meeting at work.

man, your meeting was that short? mine lasted over an hour yesterday.

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17 Oct 2007, 2:58 am

I strongly suspect that Mr. Wiese's little travelogue is merely a crass fabrication designed to scare people into the fold.

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22 Oct 2007, 9:50 pm

It may sound far fetched but by trusting God you just get the knowing and sense that you are hearing the truth.

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22 Oct 2007, 9:56 pm

Shadowgirl wrote:

It may sound far fetched but by trusting God you just get the knowing and sense that you are hearing the truth.

uh....it's called buying into the lie. it's how magic was done for hundreds of years before they started giving away their tricks. it's not trusting in god. there is no god to trust in...it's just the effect of buying into the lie and having that lie re-enforced by others.

it's one of the weirdest things to see it in action from the outside. it really illustrates the insanity and desperation of humanity.

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25 Oct 2007, 7:04 am

Sorry, but this has got to be one of the biggest crocks I've read in a long time! The poor man was probably suffering from some kind of weird waking dream or altered state of consciousness - this kind of thing isn't exactly rare.

As far as I can see, Hell would be a state of complete separation from all that is good and a state of unrelenting sterility and loneliness.

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25 Oct 2007, 10:41 am

Shadowgirl wrote:

It may sound far fetched but by trusting God you just get the knowing and sense that you are hearing the truth.

Yes, when I read the words of Ganesh and Vishnu, I feel comforted and know it is the truth.

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25 Oct 2007, 11:18 am

Or you know, by saying he "passed out" might have meant he had a dream of hell. Maybe that tells you what kind of a person he is...

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26 Oct 2007, 7:46 am

Fear is a good way to get a person to think rationally

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26 Oct 2007, 11:37 am

Aspie_Chav wrote:

Fear is a good way to get a person to think rationally

Fascist governments and religions control people by keeping them in fear. Fear can motivate, but it usually discourages rational thought.

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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

o Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear. (Dune)

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26 Oct 2007, 5:23 pm

Aspie_Chav wrote:

Fear is a good way to get a person to think rationally

my thoughts exactly

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