"Aspergers is a curse of a condition".

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Brittany2907
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17 May 2008, 8:29 am

I was at a social group this evening for those with AS. One of the people there said..."We here, are all so unfortunate to have been cursed with this condition and condemned to suffer".

I think I was the only one there that disagreed. I voiced my opinion (in a group of 25) and said that I didn't think it was all that bad. Sure, we have social issues, but I also have gifts that I associate with my AS. I was once again, the "odd-ball" and too make me look even worse, the youngest one there!, not that that is relevant here anyway.
I can understand how some people may get depressed because of AS related issues, but i've not come accross one person in real life who sees anything positive related to their AS. They are acting like they have some kind of terminal illness and that they only have a few months to live! Even the therapists there were reinforcing the fact that having AS 'condemns you to life of more stress than the neurotypical person'.

Is it all the same out there for you? Has every person you've met (or talked to, if you haven't met them) with AS soley thought of it as a curse?


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17 May 2008, 8:31 am

the only people I've met that have AS are the people on this website. although I do have the same attitude as you do on the subject of AS.


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17 May 2008, 8:56 am

Its not really a problem for me, I still am able to work, I can socialize when I want to, since I only learned that I have AS in january, I have found that I am more able to cope with issues, talking about stuff on WP has been very educational. Aspergers only becomes a problem if people let it control their lives, and I try not to talk about it with people who I know would react a certain way, it sort of sets you up for future ridicule from those people.



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17 May 2008, 9:08 am

Its very relative to age, general social situation, the nature of your particular quirks, and the nature of your peer group as to whether AS is a curse. It can vary from being an advantage, to a mild irritant, to a life-ruiner.


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17 May 2008, 9:34 am

Macbeth wrote:
Its very relative to age, general social situation, the nature of your particular quirks, and the nature of your peer group as to whether AS is a curse. It can vary from being an advantage, to a mild irritant, to a life-ruiner.


I know that. Although, it seems that out of all of the people i've met with AS (about 30 people), every single one of them thinks of it as something that will make them depressed/stressed or somehow trapped, forever.
It just seems to be an over-reaction.


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17 May 2008, 9:59 am

It really depends. On one hand, I love being smart and knowing so much stuff about completely random topics. On the other hand, I'm somewhat socially stunted and it's a total pain, I can't stand it when people try to joke around with me, and I almost got into a screaming match yesterday in art class over Judaism in Kazakhstan (don't ask).


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17 May 2008, 10:27 am

Well IMO let me do my own AS vs. NT topic for myself. :-)

NT)I'm stressed over classes AHHHHHHHH!

ME/AS)I LOVE COLLEGE THIS IS A BLAST!! !! !!

NT)I'm going to socialize,get drunk party etc. instead of school work!

ME/AS) I have no one to socialize with so I will not end up getting with the wrong crowd and I focus on my SCHOOL WORK!!

Family NT) We have jobs and stuff to stress over

ME/AS) Thinking of Father's Day etc. (3 weeks away by the way)


:-) So I like AS behavior ALOT more than NT I think my main behavior issue is I need to understand I am different and stop trying to socialize as much. :-)



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17 May 2008, 11:18 am

Well, I do agree that it condemns me to more stress than the average person without a spectrum condition.

Since these 99% of non-spectrum people rule the world by rules I have to trouble to play by, but I enjoy participating in their business nonetheless.

Solely a curse - no. But make the issues go away - oh, heck, yes! I'd love to have a solution for all these issue. I'd love to have the perfect cure for my problems with routines and shut-downs, overloads and meltdowns.

If someone can make them go away I'll love them forever. I try to lead life like others, I don't want to have any special AS role in which I can do only AS things - I want to do most of the stuff that average people do.

Without AS, I'd go partying every week, chat with my friends every day, just have a balanced and average sense of spontaneity. Without AS, I'd also not be reject by sight and not be rejected by my behaviour by hundreds of people.

A solution for all the bad things - yes please! Because to my mind my autism-issues are a curse that hinder me at all ends!

But entirely and only a curse - no, it's not. I think.

I do wonder what strengths are exactly due to being on the spectrum these days... if I have any due to ASD.

Other seem to have them, yes, but me? I can attribute a lot to other conditions now that I know.


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17 May 2008, 12:11 pm

For me, AS has been both a blessing and a curse. A lot of my suffering has been the result of my AS, but it has brought me moments of joy as well.



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17 May 2008, 12:17 pm

I agree with your opinions. AS is not only a curse, it's also a blessing (in simple terms). And how people around me have reacted.. My mother reacted good (she was negative at first until she read the diagnose paper), that I finally get the help I need to function. Most other say, "It's good that you know about it, but bad in a way"... and I react bad when people say: "i suffer from AS"... :-p (some Christianity spin-off in the language i guess).

And today I watched some interview with an aspie in sweden, and she was against the use of make-up and didn't saw the point with it at all, so she skipped it. The interviewers comment, "You seem to have a weird conviction". My first thought, "uhm, isn't it people who use make-up who has the weird conviction?" :-o

But sure, I can admit that not being aware of the condition itself, can be chaotic and seen as a curse. But, when you know about it and what it is, you can see that there are positive traits also :)



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17 May 2008, 1:14 pm

I just don't like the quirks that go along with AS. I used to wonder before I was ever diagnosed, how people could tolerate and socialize in certain environments like the freakn' flueroscent lights blasting down like lazer beams and much goings ons with everyone not knowing eachother and yet with no trouble to taking the initiatiative to clicking right in. Meanwhile I'm wondering around with headsets on observing all the "fun" I'm missing out on. Placing one over the other are the feelings of repression by having an ability to express an emotion or feeling without coming off painfully akward and then the fear of ridicule by that oddity. So scribing and drawing have been the only means of communication I exert just so I don't blow up like a bomb with all this war going on that have been hushed for quite a while. :(


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17 May 2008, 1:30 pm

IdahoRose wrote:
For me, AS has been both a blessing and a curse. A lot of my suffering has been the result of my AS, but it has brought me moments of joy as well.


Same here. It keeps me from being just another sheep but at the same time I am cursed with loneliness. It's like what they call a double-edged sword.


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17 May 2008, 7:04 pm

I like being the way I am, but I really get sick of my misleading body language holding me back. It's probably been the biggest AS issue for me. Most people are really sensitive to it. You can be the nicest person and the best worker, but if you constantly look sad and haughty, no one will want to work with you, even if you explain that it's beyond your control.

So I can relate to both sides of the issue. I don't wish I didn't have AS; I just wish that there was some way to work around the non-verbal communication issues.



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17 May 2008, 8:11 pm

I can see the good points of being autistic, but at the same time I do feel cursed to some degree. Been hurt lots of times by people who seem to "get" me, then don't when it really matters.

I also think that for the girls it's easier because they are under less pressure to be the social instigator.

A lot of girls (and guys for that matter) actually think I come across as gay. How do I have a fighting chance when people assume that about me? But everyone has different circumstances I suppose.


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17 May 2008, 8:41 pm

I think it is a curse, I'm not going to live in denial about it.

I feel there is part of me that isn't there and I feel there is stuff I should understand, but can't quite figure it out. :scratch:

But life goes on, understand it and deal with it. You might as well make the most of it. :)

What is the point of living your life feeling sorry for yourself. :thumbdown:


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18 May 2008, 2:08 am

Delirium wrote:
and I almost got into a screaming match yesterday in art class over Judaism in Kazakhstan (don't ask).


Don't worry. I'm sure my imagination is much more entertaining than reality.