My 11-year-old brother attacked me with a piece of metal

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23 Dec 2008, 5:18 pm

OK, I can't even remember what the argument was about, but that isn't important. My brother was in my room and wouldn't get out, and then he tried to hit me with a wooden chair, so I grabbed it off him, then he tried to stab me with a bit of metal (it was like a wire, but stiff and as thick as a pencil, and bent instead of straight). So I got out of the room and shouted, "Mum! Where the hell are you? Get here and do some parenting!" but she wasn't there, so I rang her and was all, "Your son is out of control!" and she comes into the room cos she'd just been outside, and I told her what happened and she still bloody sided with him! She was having a go at me and stuff, so I said, "I'm not being in the same house as that messed up kid anymore, you say I'm an effing mentalist!" so I started packing my suitcase and said I was off to live with my dad.

Then Mum said I could do that if I wanted after Xmas, so I'm going to if he says yeah. I rang him and he said we'll speak about it tomorrow.


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23 Dec 2008, 5:21 pm

I still remember when I chased my mom and brother with a huge knife...


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23 Dec 2008, 6:09 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
OK, I can't even remember what the argument was about, but that isn't important. My brother was in my room and wouldn't get out, and then he tried to hit me with a wooden chair, so I grabbed it off him, then he tried to stab me with a bit of metal (it was like a wire, but stiff and as thick as a pencil, and bent instead of straight). So I got out of the room and shouted, "Mum! Where the hell are you? Get here and do some parenting!" but she wasn't there, so I rang her and was all, "Your son is out of control!" and she comes into the room cos she'd just been outside, and I told her what happened and she still bloody sided with him! She was having a go at me and stuff, so I said, "I'm not being in the same house as that messed up kid anymore, you say I'm an effing mentalist!" so I started packing my suitcase and said I was off to live with my dad.

Then Mum said I could do that if I wanted after Xmas, so I'm going to if he says yeah. I rang him and he said we'll speak about it tomorrow.


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What your brother did was called aggravated assault by our laws. He used a weapon, a chair. He needs to be taken to juvenile. I don't know what juvenile is called therein the U.K. You have every right to defend yourself from attack. It's written in our code of laws (U.S.) and it's written in the U.K. code of laws too. Gina, I bet your brother knows how to make himself seem innocent in front of his mother and everyone else, am I correct on my assessment? If you wish to talk any further of your feelings you can pm me if you wish. We can swap and trade stories of our life experiences if you wish too. You may know stuff I haven't learned and I might know stuff you do not know.

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23 Dec 2008, 6:21 pm

My sister used to do this kind of thing when we were kids. A knife, usually. And my little brother went at me with a floor lamp once, smashing it in the process. I was bigger and stronger than them, so they went for weapons. I don't want to downplay what you have experienced, but just to say I survived, and my siblings are fully functioning adults (and parents) these days.

Your mum shouldn't just let it go, as any physical violence is unacceptable, but this incident doesn't necessarily mean your brother is psychotic. You need to feel safe in your home, and your mother and brother both need to realise this and help make it happen.



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23 Dec 2008, 6:45 pm

BTW, I feel I should explain a little about my brother. He is sometimes perfectly normal, but if he gets in a bad mood he completely flips out and throws things, shouts, screams, and is impossible to reason with. Then when it passes he'll be saying sorry and if you ask about his behaviour, he'll deny it. It's as though he really doesn't know what he did during the rage. It's like living with Jekyll and Hyde.

Even though he's two years younger than me, it's very scary when he gets into one of his moods. During today's incident, I'm very lucky I managed to overpower him and get out of the room, as normally he's quite a bit stronger than me despite size.

My mum seems to like him more than me, because when he's not in a rage, he's sociable and "normal", and he also always sides with her on everything from what to watch on TV to whether or not she should break up with her boyfriend, as opposed to having an individual opinion like me.


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23 Dec 2008, 7:23 pm

What your brother did is UNACCEPTABLE. Having an arguement over some things is understandable, though it should never accelerate to even yelling and screaming. It needs to be calmly talked and possibly debated about. Physical Assault is wrong.

Has your brother throw around objects before?



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23 Dec 2008, 7:35 pm

Bozewani wrote:
Has your brother throw around objects before?


Yes, he has been known to. He gets very violent when he's having a rage. And he often takes it out on whoever's there, me or mum usually, even when whatever beef he has wasn't anything to do with us. Once he was kicked off the football team, so he was shouting at Mum, then he tore down his David Beckham poster then cried that he wanted it back as though it was Mum's fault.

I'm simply amazed that Mum hasn't made him see social workers and all that. She makes me see social workers just cos I don't socialise enough!


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23 Dec 2008, 11:17 pm

You man you have to TALK about leaving your screwed-up brother? That's messed up. I hope your dad is a good person and I hope he'll let you stay. How many times has your brother acted like that? I'd have hurt him.



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24 Dec 2008, 7:44 am

must be terrible, aren't you worry'd about your mother? This kid seem to have a big problem, so he'll probably do the same with you'r mother. 11 Years old is old enough to know what your doing (deffinetly) so he must have a huge problem then.



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24 Dec 2008, 9:51 am

UndercoverAlien wrote:
must be terrible, aren't you worry'd about your mother? This kid seem to have a big problem, so he'll probably do the same with you'r mother. 11 Years old is old enough to know what your doing (deffinetly) so he must have a huge problem then.


I don't think he does stuff like this to Mum, but I'm not sure...sometimes there is a lot of yelling, which I absolutely hate. Between him and her, the worst is Sunday nights when he has to do his math homework. He gets stressed about not being able to do it, so Mum tries telling him to calm down, which is a major mistake cos if you tell him to chill out during a rage he denies he's not chilled out already, even though he's clearly the polar opposite of calm.

So something like this would go, "I can't do it!" "Calm down, then.." "I AM CALM!! !!"

And being an aspie, I hate the sound of people yelling and screaming at one another, even if I'm not in the room I can still hear it and it makes me want to bash my head against a wall or summat.


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24 Dec 2008, 9:56 am

What's worse is that the mother has the "my little angel" label applied to your brother... she can't possibly see anything wrong with him...



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25 Dec 2008, 11:16 am

Yo gina-ghettoprincess, I totally support your decision in moving in with your dad. I know how it's like to have a B*T*H for a mum and an A*S*O*E for a lil'bro. Although my problems with my mum and bro were different, I did decide to move with my dad in the end (that was 4 years ago in 2004). And I'm still staying with my dad till today.


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26 Dec 2008, 4:33 pm

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Yo gina-ghettoprincess, I totally support your decision in moving in with your dad. I know how it's like to have a B*T*H for a mum and an A*S*O*E for a lil'bro. Although my problems with my mum and bro were different, I did decide to move with my dad in the end (that was 4 years ago in 2004). And I'm still staying with my dad till today.


Thanks.

It's now officially Boxing Day, so I feel that soon I can bring up the problem and not be charged with ruining Christmas.

Believe it or not, I vaguely remember some crap hit the fan last year on "Christmas Eve Eve". It was similar crap, too, though I forget the details. This really IS the most stressful season. And people WANT it to be happy, so you kind of have to brush it under the rug until after the celebrations are over.

It really was nice to have a day where everyone could get along and not be bitching at each other over every last thing. Though my brother was being his usual self for a few minutes when his new expensive phone (which I did NOT get despite needing one desperately) didn't have a SIM card until after dinner. Two words: AW DIDDUMS.


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27 Dec 2008, 7:10 am

I can't move in with my dad because he often has to go away to work for a few days at a time at short notice, so it wouldn't be "practical". So I guess I'm stuck in this hellhole.

Just for a while, there was a spark of hope that I could live in a house with no evil two-faced mental brother. But hey, that's life, I guess.


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27 Dec 2008, 9:39 am

In this country, specialy at the moment, social services are REALLY coming down on poor parenting & wild kids. It sounds to me as if your mother is not able to handle this boy alone, he sounds like he has something which needs medical treatment. Maybe some sort of personality problem or chemical imbalence. If he's capable of doing this to you, then he's also capable of doing it to others.

It's only a matter of time before this 'little angel' gets involved with the police or someone reports all the screaming & yelling, because yes, it will be audiable to the neighbors.
The kid needs help before it's too late, if he does it in the street or even uses a real knife, he's going to get locked away for a very, very long time.
It might be worth having a talk with your social worker about this. Your mum might hate you for a bit yes, but if someone does not interveine soon your brother may well kill someone or get himself killed.

For all we know he may well have a form of Autism too, as it is genetic and does have a high co morbidity with things like ADHD. He really could use some psychiatric intervention at this age, before he grows into a horrible, violent adult.

The 'rages' you describe are EXACTLY what I went through when I was about his age. I was diagnosed at 11. It really could be that he has another type of ASD, that yes allows him to be sociable, as many of us aspies are, but also causes him extreme mood disturbances.