Do you think The BNP get into power in the UK?

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09 Apr 2009, 2:39 pm

As a Jew i am really worried about the Fascist BNP getting into power, because I do not want another holocaust to Happen.

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09 Apr 2009, 2:51 pm

Most unlikely - To gain just one seat in the House of Commons you need a majority in one constituency. This is unlikely; even more unlikely would be to gain a majority in the House of Commons.

Even when: The framework of treaties binding the UK (and all other EU-countries) to maintain Human Rights is tight that the UK could not escape.

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09 Apr 2009, 3:38 pm

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As a Jew i am really worried about the Fascist BNP getting into power, because I do not want another holocaust to Happen.

I very much doubt the BNP will ever get into power, but they will likely continue to stir things up. I worked with a man once who was a member of the BNP and his views were frightening. Totally beyond the realms or reason or any conceived morality. If it was left to him there would be another holocaust.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if there end up bloody riots in the streets of England sooner or later but I doubt Jews will be an issue; more like Muslims. This is pure speculation but I think the next world war will be a semi-religious war of Fundamental Muslims vs the West. Probably provoked by a major terrorist outrage such as a dirty nuclear bomb in a western city, or coordinated chemical attacks. Fingers will point at mainstream none-fanatical Muslims and I can see a climate of fear arising, perhaps fuelled by the likes of the BNP and maybe in the end, a lynch mob atmosphere and riots or even a bloody civil war. As I say this is pure speculation and I don't know how far in the future this will be, but I think there is going to be a lot of blood spilled sooner or later.

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09 Apr 2009, 3:43 pm

Don't fear the BNP. They're a bunch of ignorant hate-filled bastards, sure - but luckily most sane people can see that.

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09 Apr 2009, 3:52 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Don't fear the BNP. They're a bunch of ignorant hate-filled bastards, sure - but luckily most sane people can see that.

do not forget the credit crunch. this was how the Nazis got in to power, the reason why the Germans voted the nazi was because of the depression.

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09 Apr 2009, 3:59 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Don't fear the BNP. They're a bunch of ignorant hate-filled bastards, sure - but luckily most sane people can see that.

do not forget the credit crunch. this was how the Nazis got in to power, the reason why the Germans voted the nazi was because of the depression.

An excellent point - but the Nazis were experts in propaganda and manipulation; few people take the BNP seriously.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:10 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

An excellent point - but the Nazis were experts in propaganda and manipulation; few people take the BNP seriously.

As I remember there were parts of England during the last general election where the BNP vote was around 5%. That may not sound a lot, but when you think it is 1 in 20 people that sounds like a lot of people do take them seriously. The figure frightened me at the time. As mentioned, it only takes something like a major economic recession to make people look for scapegoats. Increased house re-possessions, lots of job losses. Reduced freedoms all in the name of protection against (Muslim) terrorists. All it needs is an eloquent and charismatic leader who can woo the crowds and point the finger saying Muslims are to blame and many people will start to believe it; especially if there are any major terrorist attacks.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:16 pm

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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

An excellent point - but the Nazis were experts in propaganda and manipulation; few people take the BNP seriously.

REALLY???! !!

Which parts of England might these be?!

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09 Apr 2009, 4:17 pm

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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

An excellent point - but the Nazis were experts in propaganda and manipulation; few people take the BNP seriously.

If they get in another holocaust would happen.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:20 pm

I'm moving out of this hellhole of a nation ASAP, anyway, for too many reasons to count.

I'll put in a good word for you guys when I'm in Rome. :wink:

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09 Apr 2009, 4:24 pm

I just found the following on Wikipedia for the 2005 election results:

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There were also regional surges in support for the British National Party, who however failed to win any seats, their highest poll being 16.9% in the Labour stronghold of Barking, East London.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:27 pm

These BNP fellows sounds a lot like the 'Sweden Democrats' here in Sweden. They are fueled by their petty views of 'nationalism' and immigrants in general and muslims in particular are the prime target. Luckily neither the BNP nor the SvD have much chance of winning, though they have more votes than I anticipated a while ago.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:40 pm

TallyMan wrote:

I just found the following on Wikipedia for the 2005 election results:

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There were also regional surges in support for the British National Party, who however failed to win any seats, their highest poll being 16.9% in the Labour stronghold of Barking, East London.

Hmm...I thought they would have more support in the rural areas, as country people tend to be quite racist (and I can say that cos I have to consort with said racist country people on a daily basis).

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09 Apr 2009, 4:46 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Hmm...I thought they would have more support in the rural areas, as country people tend to be quite racist (and I can say that cos I have to consort with said racist country people on a daily basis).

Thankfully the national vote for the BNP was only 0.7% in the 2005 election according to Wikipedia, so it does seem to vary a lot from region to region. I can understand what you mean about country people. I was raised in the Derbyshire countryside on a farm, and the farmers and people in general were very conservative about everything - especially about foreigners or none-white people. When I was at university and came home to visit I told my father I had a girlfriend and his first response was "She's not black is she?". That just about summed up his attitude and that of the people of his rural generation.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:57 pm

TallyMan wrote:

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:

Hmm...I thought they would have more support in the rural areas, as country people tend to be quite racist (and I can say that cos I have to consort with said racist country people on a daily basis).

Yeah, people are a bit like that round here too. There was a boy at my old school who could rarely get through an RE class without expressing some of his rather un-PC opinions about immigrants and Muslims.

I'm sure I was born into the wrong life, because I actually tend to like foreigners more than I like British people, LOL.

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09 Apr 2009, 4:57 pm

I hope they do not get into power.

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