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[rossc, you have taken a lot of time from your life to prevent a GLBT forum from being created. I worry that you personally will also work to undermine the confidence of GLBT people when we/they discuss those issues elsewhere. Recognizing the complexity of being GLBT--especially with the addition of being ASD , would have been a sign of maturity.

A mature person also would have recognized a lack of information/understanding in such matters, and stepped back, but you chose to argue, to fight, because you like to fight, or do not like GLBT people. Yes, that makes me intolerant toward you personally.

I am trying to cause a change with the idea of helping people, you are trying to prevent a change that will help people, therefore, you are hurting people, or have the potential of hurting poeple. Accept that being ASD and GLBT, at times can be one hell of a ride, and those persons might need a safe environment to explore their issues.

rossc, as an argument you could "win" this, but what I am saying is that you shouldn't because the creation of a GLBT subforum has the potential to save lives. rossc, please stand down.]

I patiently await the creation of a GLBT forum on Wrongplanet..net

[rossc, isn't this what you stand for on your website http://intensitysquared.com/ ? "You have found INTENSITY², the autistic spectrum site everyone loves to hate."]

Lecks, being GLBT isn't all about romance and dating, nor are all all GLBT people adults. You seem to be making some rudimentary assumptions about GLBT people which may be are superficial.

Regardless of what information presented to you, you may not understand the need for a GLBT subforum., because you may not be GLBT, and if you are not, you probably not understand the need anymore than someone who is (predominately) NT's would understand the need for a Asperger/ASD forum at all. (I mean no NT slight.)

The creation of a GLBT subforum is every bit as important as Mens' or Womens' forum. A GLBT subforum will help pool resources and knowledge. When someone clicks on a GLBT link on Wongplanet, they will know that while they are 1:100 for ASD, and 1:10 for GLB, or 1:10,000 for the T--that that even with those compounded odds. that they have a decent chance, a best chance of being understood.

I do think that the arguments against the creation of a GLBT forum are beginning to seem similar to "Why is the sky blue" questions. Dispersion aside, both Lecks and rossc seem to state that they don't understand--that is why Wrongplanet should have a GLBT forum, so GLBT people who need to be understood, can find that understanding.

Logically, it seems reasonable that the people who are against the creation of a GLBT forum will emotionally survive if it created, causing a Wrongplanet visitor to scroll past a single line of text, BUT for the people who are against the forum has spent hours fighting it, the why cannot be justified.

I saw the cars lined up at my cousins next door neighbor's house, after he shot himself. At her funeral, I looked in a woman's eyes after her child killed themselves with pills because she was rejected because she was transsexual. I met someone who was killed and stuffed in a car trunk because the were transsexual. As a past co-VP of a TS support group, I have talked with so many people who were disowned, discarded, followed, hated beaten, and worse--only because they were transsexual. I met a son who disowned his father because he cross-dressed. I was taunted attacked and beaten more than once because of the way I looked. I left in the ninth grade school because I did not fit in. My ex of 4-1/2 years left me for dead in the hospital with tubes coming out of my chest--only because I said wanted to be female...and what so far, in while you may also know adversity, what your life has prepared you to handle that? Now add on the challenges of being ASD, because there are some. I made it so, far, but the next one may not.

Just as I want to work on communication channel between GLBT's and ASD people, I patiently await the creation of a GLBT subforum on Wongplanet.

I've got gender issues.

I'm mostly homosexual.

I would appreciate a subforum specific to LGBTQ issues so I don't have to go wading through 5 or 6 different other subforums to find discussions pertinent to the issues I face, or have faced in the past. It would also be helpful for those of us older aspies who have already dealt with specific lbgtq issues to have a set place where we can read posts from and offer advice to those younger people who are dealing with those same issues right now.

I thank Alex for offering to create one so quickly after the OP asked for it.

I'm also confused that people continue to argue over the creation of said subforum after Alex already said he would create it. I mean, really, what is the point?

Brenda are you saying that we can not possibly understand because we are not LGBT? Give us a shot and don't let your prejudices hold you back. Why do I keep asking if it does not matter?

Hell my "educated guesses as to why are merely that and I am still interested despite your efforts to denounce my intents or motives and take potshots at my character and personality.

Why do you think that LGBT people who are on the spectrum won't find support on a forum of marginalised people? We are all "the other". We are all deviant from the accepted and societal norm.

As for Intensity Squared? What was your point there? I am not there when I post here. This place is not half the site that place is but I do like the variation.

Many large organisations, such as universities, trade unions, religious denominations, professional organisations and some large employers, have GLBT(Q) groups or forums. The fact that such groups have achieved "mainstream" status or recognition in some areas doesn't mean to say that the individuals who identify as belonging to such groups have achieved a similar level of acceptance. These groups provide support and solidarity to their members, as well as serving awareness- and acceptance-raising functions.

For an organisation to have such a group says a great deal about that particular organisation - the way it cares for those who belong to it, and its respect for wider human rights issues.

It seems to me that WP is a large organisation, and one which operates to provide support and raise awareness of challenges faced by groups and individuals. The inclusion of a GLBT(Q) forum would seem to be consistent with the wider aims and purposes of WP.

More particularly, as someone who has spent time on on-line autism communities for almost three years now, I reckon that there is probably a higher than average proportion of autistic people who identify as GLBT(Q) or have other, related, gender identity issues and questions.

Alex has already committed on this thread, twice now, to creating the forum requested by the OP.

I can't believe the OP has managed to get a forum agreed by basically saying everone opposed is closed-minded and unsupportive - what a load of crap! That's the post numbers in both L&D & Adult forums reduced but exactally the same posts appearing elsewhere.
It's funny that LGBT people claim to want to be treated equaly yet actually try to segragate themselves...