Has WP been hostile to gays?

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Again, who I am is not important. What I say, is.



Since you don't know who I am, you have no idea of what I have achieved. Silly little boy.



If that's what you prefer to believe, then by all means continue doing so. If you don't want to see what's around you, good luck. But if it's justice you want, then you should question your trusted friend, ask her why she still hasn't told you the truth.



You are explaining this to me because deep down, you know I'm right. Ask her, comrade.



The problem is that you don't have any evidence beyond what you believe to be true. You don't have proof, period. There's ample proof of how you've insulted him again and again, however, and how you've altered his posts at Aspie Trash.

You react like a little boy, resorting to name-calling and childish pranks when cornered, comrade.



I'd have an easier time believing you "heat of the moment" argument had it not been for the fact that your heat of the moment has spanned several weeks.

Have you mentioned to your support person how you've attacked HG, called her names, or how you've impersonated her at Aspie Trash? Would the people in the "autism profession" be angry when hearing what you've done, how you've tried bullying her? And incidentally, comrade, have you told your support person how you'd have no qualms about making Duncvis' family homeless to avenge yourself for perceived injustices on the Internet?

You should.



Don't flatter yourself, comrade. You're just one of Ascan's puppets and of no real significance. I came here to stop his lies, because his conspiracy theories pop up every now and then and need to be exposed as the fabrications they are. You joined the party later.

if a small fire breaks out and you have no liquid handy, then what do you do?

i would piss on it.


ascan likes to start fires.

I will not even bother replying to Peter, as he is not worth my time.

en_una_isla, thank you for your comments. Yes, forgiveness is a virtue, but I am unable to practice it here, unfortunately. Duncvis, HG, and Peegai make it quite clear that "this town isn't big enough for the both of us" so that is how I must play it too. Dunc wants to screw me, so I must screw Dunc first in order for that not to happen.

Calloway. This is no "petty internet grudge". As I said before, the internet is some people's only line of support, and so events that take place on it are a big thing. I am lucky that I have an aspie support group in real life, so it is not 100% true for me, but it is for some people, expecially in isolated parts of the country. My psychological and emotional health has been severely damaged by the (multiple) incidence involving several people on the site. I have suffered panic attacks and severe depression, and so has omega_female. I hold Duncvis responsible as it was within his power to curb the assualts on my charactor, but instead of doing that, he encouraged them.

As regards my callouts, I was not attacking these people on a personal basis. I was questioning their behaviour to other members of the forum. Lucifer, in particular, admitted that she enjoyed bullying this one particular person. I think this is morally repugnant, and I wanted her to answer for it. Instead of a reasoned defense, she and her friends grouped together to attack MY charactor (which was nothing to do with the arguement in hand". It escalated from there, with pictures being posted, and Duncvis fueling a class war against me and my family.

Up until then, my behavour has been 100% above board, despite the lengths that people were going to to humiliate me. After I left, I felt so livid, I did partake in some questionable (but by no means illegal or immoral) activities, including a short story about HG's fictional adventures with Duncvis as a prostitute, and a fake HG admitting that she wanted some sexual adventures with Peegai and Jizz. These actions were ill-thought through, and I have since removed these posts on AspieTrash voluntarily.

You must understand that HG and Duncvis are throwing everything they have got at me, and attempting to hit out at every aspect of my life, including my relationship with omega_female. I find it unforgiveable how HG has been spreading these rumours about omega, and trying to turn best friends against each other. She is the ultimate manipulator, and I am surprised you haven't realised that yet. But then again, you have AS, as do I, so you may never notice. I work on the principle that I do not suspect anything until I have evidence. I currently have no evidence to support your claims about omega, so I can safely dismiss your case as fantasy. Come back when you have hard evidence.

Duncvis is a thug who has got himself in too deep. To quote HG's famous line: "Don't throw small stones at people carrying a large rock". Duncvis and his buddies have been harrassing me for too long now (I will go into detail about Peegai's exploits another time) with their small stones. They must know I will retaliate at some point, and I intend to hit back hard. If I could cause Dunc maximum pain, I would. He has caused me enough pain. Anyway, it is not possible to sue him; so really I would not be sure what to do if I could. Assuming he would lose the case and incur heavy debts, the State would prop him up anyway (as I think it should, being that I am a socialist). If the idiot was stupid enough to spend all his state Housing Benefit money on drugs, it would not be my fault if he became homeless, as in the UK (unlike the US) state benefits are sufficient in themselves to keep people housed, feed, clothed, etc. In such a case, his kids would be taken into Care, and probably have a better childhood anyway without being brought up on his twisted ideology, and prejudice against certain groups in society.

Furthermore, my campaign against Duncvis and Intensity is more than just a personal grudge. Are you aware that Dunc and his buddies have a foot in virtually every autism support site, except WP and AspieVillage. I am in a position where I cannot post on any site now without fear of intimidation by one or other of his friends. If I was to say, post in the Haven section here or on OnTheSpectrum, I would probably just get some really patronising "advice" from one of the "gang" members about me being a "middle-class mommas boy" etc. I find it quite serious (and so does my support worker) that I am unable now to use the internet for support, without someone from Intensity descovering my identity (they keep IP addresses on the sites they moderate) and mocking me, and then taking the content to Intensity (which I can't access) and mock me further. The only option available to me for my future security on the internet is to have Intensity shut down so that these people do not have a base of operations from which to attack me and several others. Callaway, do you not understand the precarity of my situation and the fact that I am in a vulnerable position. The closure of Intensity is not simply me being malicious- it is essential for my continued online survival. If you can think of a better way forward, do tell me. The other option is for Dunc and Odeon to relinquish control of their admin positions on all other sites except Intensity thus balancing the vast power imbalance, but the stubborn fool would never agree to that.

You had better calm yourselves down before this turns into a flame war. This topic has gotten way off the idea of the original topic.

Moderators- could you please keep an eye on this thread and take whatever actions are deemed necessary.?

RobertN, Omega Female, I apologise for the things that were clearly my fault. And so, I'm sorry.

Hopefully, you two will move on from this nonsense online -- I sure am.

WHOA, WHOA!

Think back to your school days.


Since when did anyone care about bullying exactly?

Now, can we please get back to discussing whether WP has been hostile to gays?

If you two must continue your discussion, would you kindly start your own thread?

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail over some pointless thread just because I apologised to someone who has serious issues, which I didn't take so seriously before.

No, no. A topic's course is far more important than someone's well-being here.

People derail all the time. Get over it.

Peegai, I hope you are being sincere. If you are, you have my gratitude and my respect for taking an independent line of thought from the Intensity clique. Hopefully more people from Intensity will now come forward and say that they don't subscribe to this hate campaign that Dunc and HG have launched against omega and myself, and then hopefully things will die down.

I am very surprised at this turn of events and I hope that Peegai is being sincere, though as I said before, I have a policy of accepting people's comments as truthful unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise. Therefore, I will accept that Peegai is being sincere, and I hope that this may be the first step into breaking up this awful clique that has developed on Intensity.

So, what you're saying is that people are responsible for the consequences of their own choices? In that case, I guess it would also be fair to say that if someone runs a site that is targeted at people who are prone to depression, anxiety etc and allows those people to be habitually ridiculed to the point that they develop mental health problems (or their existing ones are worsened), then they are responsible for the consequences of their actions / choices too.

So, I guess the 'blame' for any negative outcomes rests on the shoulders of the person/s who instigated the situation. Since the people who run Intensity actively recruit from a portion of society that are prone to mental illness and are - by definition - socially inept, and facilitates and encourages their mistreatment, then they must be responsible for any harm caused.


If you genuinely believe that, then why are you trying to force him to see the "truth"? I started using AS messages boards to experience the social interaction that my difficulties prevent me from experiencing in real life. To my surprise, using sites like WrongPlanet has even helped me to form some friendships - something I may not have achieved if the initial interactions with these people had taken place in real life. Throughout this thread, you (and your associates) have attempted to sabotage the three closest friendships I have (RobertN, Ascan and Laz) for no reason other than to advance your own argument. You have no right to interfere with people's lives, the way you have done with mine, just because you don't agree with what I say. You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.


All I have ever done is given RobertN moral support when people have hurt him; if you have a problem with that, then perhaps you should've taken action to prevent people from attacking him. And, if anyone's a lucky break for Ascan's "conspiracy theories," it's you! Everytime you've posted on this thread, you've helped to strengthen our argument. But, please, don't let that put you off from contributing more!  


I have made it perfectly clear to RobertN where he stands with me. In fact, on one occasion, I even addressed the issue in public: http://www.stimmy.net/aspietrash/viewto ... light=#755 If RobertN is "holding on" to any fantasies about me, it's his prerogative (as long as he respects that the feeling isn't mutual). Currently, I have a bit of a crush on one of my colleagues - even though I know that she would never be interested in me because she is a heterosexual woman. However, that doesn't give me the right to demand intimate information about her sex-life (regardless of whether that information is true or not) in an attempt to 'cure' me of my crush. Also, a psychologist once told me that my crushes are a coping-mechanism to help me deal with my chronic depression. I enjoy my crushes, and my life would feel a lot duller without them.


This is the thread where someone posted, pretending to be RobertN: intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=1275.0 Of course, the thread has been edited now (including the user-name of the poster and the title) but that only happened because the person who started the thread realised that what he'd done was cruel and had the courage to admit his error of judgement. However, you and Duncvis were quite happy for the thread to remain as it originally was and, since you are both in positions of authority on the site where it took place, you are responsible for what type of behaviour your organisation facilitates and deems acceptable.


The important thing you neglected to mention was that that comment was directed at some people who initiated an attack.


Then why are you addressing that statement, specifically, to RobertN? If you truly believe what you just said, shouldn't you be directing it at all parties involved?


Is it any wonder, considering the pressure he has been put under by various people in Intensity, that he has acted this way? If you treat a person like dirt by continually provoking and humiliating them, it's inevitable that they will attempt to lash-out at some point. Yes, I think that RobertN acted irrationally and disproportionately, at times, but it's hardly surprising given his neurological-type (which Intensity is specifically aimed at) combined with the abuse he was subjected to. If you don't like the situation that Intensity has created, then you should be directing your criticisms towards Intensity - not at RobertN.


Bullying, exploitation and social elitism exist in almost all parts of society; some people would probably say that the bullying they've endured in the work place (for example) is worse than any that they suffered during their school years. Not really a concept I thought I'd ever have to explain in a discussion with other people with AS, but there you go.

hokkum!

all of it. its all perception. the one who is wrong here is the person wishing to put an entire (innocent) family on the street.
address some important issues Omega. or would that spoil your party if you didn't have a patsy to manipulate.

furthermore, who isn't prone to depression. some people handle it better than others.

I'm being sincere about it. I'm just apologising for the times I have personally mocked you in the past. For the record, I don't belong in cliques, nor am I controlled by what people say and think. I do what my conscience is prompting me to do.

And no, this does not mean that I agree with you on your stance on Intensity -- or your dislike of HG and Dunc, for that matter.

I'll talk more about this tomorrow.

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Omega, will you ever address the real issues at hand? Any of them? Not that I'm not enjoying Ascan's Muppet Show, but some intellectual honesty every now and then wouldn't hurt you.

You guessed wrong. That wasn't Peter.