Why do Aspergers people have that look?
it shows in the heart rate and the sweaty palms though....
I was reading through this thread thinking, "Wow, look at all the people getting bent out of shape...don't see that often on WP." Then I remembered I was in the Parents' Discussion.
@Craig - I'm not offended by your comment, and I don't think it should have been removed. There're a lot of NTs in this forum, though, and you know how they get...
Actually, I was the first person to be officially offended, and I am not NT. I may not have an official diagnosis - but AS is the first thing in over fifty years that can explain all the oddities in my life. I am just sick of being dumped on by NTs who like to link AS with everything unpleasant they can think of when they aren't just dumping on us for being different. Before I figured out I was AS, I was sick of news coverage that made a huge deal because some guy was AS and killed someone - why don't they make a big fuss about it every time someone blue-eyed is a killer? (I am not suggesting anything negative about anyone with blue eyes, merely that it would be equally absurd.)
If the OP is AS and intended mockery of that NT attitude, I apologise for missing the point - but I still think it was a bad idea. Much too easy for some NT to come along, point to that, and say, "See! 'They' are all psycho killers." Which is, of course, a load of ignorant bigotry - but that's exactly my point. Bigotry is far too common as it is, without providing fuel.
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In the country of the blind, the one eyed man - would be diagnosed with a psychological disorder
I admit I didn't bother to check that - but my statement also had two parts, and I can't know his intention, aside from reading what he said.
I have no quarrel with the OP, only with that statement. Even if it was meant as mockery, I think it was carelessly done, and could easily be misused by bigots. And, if it was meant any other way, it would mean he has accepted the bigoted lies spread about us. Which is a very sad thing, and nothing I'd want to attack him for, but in that case the statement itself - understandable as it might be in one sense - is as objectionable as it would be coming from the bigots who taught him to think that way.
As I've said elsewhere, the Holocaust has been one of my special interests for almost forty years. And if there is one thing I have learned from studying all that very tragic history, it is this. Never, ever, permit bigotry - even unconscious or apparent bigotry - to go unchallenged. There was nothing uniquely dreadful about Germans, they were simply humans like anyone else who were exposed to propaganda and bigoted statements until many of them assumed those things must be true. If any people are exposed to such influences, sooner or later, they will turn on those they have learned to think of as 'bad'.
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AQ Test = 44 Aspie Quiz = 169 Aspie 33 NT EQ / SQ-R = Extreme Systematising
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Not all those who wander are lost.
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In the country of the blind, the one eyed man - would be diagnosed with a psychological disorder
I showed up late... but my view on it...
I wished I looked dreamy. I got my mother's perma-scowl in lieu of a blank expression. I can't switch my face off. If I don't have an expression, I look like I don't approve. It sucks.
And psycho killers look just like everyone else. Downright charming, sometimes. So I am told. Think of Ted Bundy. Everyone said how charming he was...
And finally, some of the coldest, cruelest, nastiest people I have every known were smilers. It's all flowery wallpaper over a rusty door to a very ugly place.
Don't make me quote the famous cliché . The outside means nothing.
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Is there any medical reason that people with Aspergers have that kind of .... cloudy, far-off, feathery look in their eyes? Don't really know how to describe it. I am sure you know what I mean. It seems to be a common physical trait. Is there any medical reason for it?
The eyes of other PDD diagnosis children look different to me, some normal some just not-there, blank and empty. Seems to be somewhat consistent with the diagnosis??
Because we're really just pretending to listen.
Is there any medical reason that people with Aspergers have that kind of .... cloudy, far-off, feathery look in their eyes? Don't really know how to describe it. I am sure you know what I mean. It seems to be a common physical trait. Is there any medical reason for it?
The eyes of other PDD diagnosis children look different to me, some normal some just not-there, blank and empty. Seems to be somewhat consistent with the diagnosis??
Because we're really just pretending to listen.
that's....not badly put actually
Is there any medical reason that people with Aspergers have that kind of .... cloudy, far-off, feathery look in their eyes? Don't really know how to describe it. I am sure you know what I mean. It seems to be a common physical trait. Is there any medical reason for it?
The eyes of other PDD diagnosis children look different to me, some normal some just not-there, blank and empty. Seems to be somewhat consistent with the diagnosis??
See here:
http://aspergersgirl.com/index.php/topic,815.0.html
It's a very common observation of AS people (including myself).
I happen to know that it is biological (medical is not a good word to use), in that there is a physical aspect that it relates to. I cannot recall at the moment if it is known on the chemical level (and therefore fully understood) but it is HIGHLY unlikely as the diagnosis itself is not understood completely on that level.
In other words, we have a pretty good guess at what causes it, and yes, it's due to mental processes. I doubt it has anything at all to do with the structure of the eye.
Does it mean anything? I doubt it is anything more or less a reflection of emotion and other such signals, and if so, those with AS would have distinct looking eye expressions because they have a distinct mental profile.
Alright, there is my reasonable but definitely not expert opinion on the subject. Take it as you will.
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