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07 Jun 2023, 5:31 pm

If you want to make it as a livestreamer these days, you got to have safe, inoffensive content that's advertiser friendly. You gotta be basic. You gotta be generic. You gotta be artificial. You gotta be boring. Political correctness is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened. You can't be edgy. You can't take off your shirt on camera if you're a guy. You can't use certain words or phrases. You probably can't even swear anymore. For god's sake, they banned the term Blind Playthrough so it wouldn't offend blind people. It's only a matter of time before YouTube catches up.

Good news is Livestreamers have stood up and said enough is enough. A lot of them are threatening to leave the platform.


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07 Jun 2023, 5:55 pm

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...Political correctness Corporate overreach and pandering to advertisers is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened...

Let's not forget that the main driver of this crap is Money and will always be Money. If companies primarily wanted to put their ads on things that were "edgy", or where streamers were saying and doing "risky" s**t, Twitch would be boosting it. Advertisers want family/kid friendly, "inoffensive", easily digestible content that's going to get them the most clicks, often from kids and teenagers. It's the same thing with literally every popular online platform and has been for years. They want you to think it's the fault of "political correctness" or some other culture war BS because it absolves them and the platforms pandering to them of any responsibility for making the conscious choice to systematically cuck creators, all for a few extra $$$.



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07 Jun 2023, 6:10 pm

One can be more erudite when using proper language than when using scatological expressions.


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07 Jun 2023, 6:13 pm

Recently I've been going back on to watch whoever, and I always give up after a short while. It's just silly, the same stuff, it suggests the channels you unfollowed a while back, tries to compel you to strim, etc.


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07 Jun 2023, 6:14 pm

^ Twitch puts me in mind of what would happen if you took away the writing instruments of those who post their thoughts on bathroom walls.


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31 Jul 2023, 5:54 pm

Twitch has always been crap! It was never for gamers, its really a soft core porn site if you think about it. Then once Twitch said in their term and service now that their take 45% off your revenue from promo, ads, donation, etc that was it for me. This is why alternative sites like Rumble and Kick exist.


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31 Jul 2023, 6:19 pm

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One can be more erudite when using proper language than when using scatological expressions.


It's one thing to use enough vulgar language to make a longshoreman blush.

It's different when you only use words like f*** or s*** or the occasional saying the Lord's name in vain, but only when something goes wrong.


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05 Aug 2023, 11:13 am

Aspiegaming wrote:
If you want to make it as a livestreamer these days, you got to have safe, inoffensive content that's advertiser friendly. You gotta be basic. You gotta be generic. You gotta be artificial. You gotta be boring. Political correctness is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened. You can't be edgy. You can't take off your shirt on camera if you're a guy. You can't use certain words or phrases. You probably can't even swear anymore. For god's sake, they banned the term Blind Playthrough so it wouldn't offend blind people. It's only a matter of time before YouTube catches up.

Good news is Livestreamers have stood up and said enough is enough. A lot of them are threatening to leave the platform.


I tried Twitch but I never saw the appeal. Youtube used to be good years ago, but it has become too mainstream and monetised. It feels to me, more corporate-like versus 5 or 10 years ago.



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05 Aug 2023, 11:53 am

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One can be more erudite when using proper language than when using scatological expressions.


Ah yes, the famously intellectual profession of video game internet streamére

Personally I don't care that much about how Woke or Based Twitch is this week, but I will say that the format never appealed to me in the slightest. What's the appeal of watching a person making braindead commentary for hours and only taking a break to read out donations – good god, the Big Issue lady down the road sells like three copies a day while having to effectively humiliate herself meanwhile some witless cretin is pulling in millionaire money from people who I can only describe as necessarily mentally ill.

I guess the upside of not being someone who finds social interaction (if this can even be described as such) inherently valuable is that I'm immune to these sorts of things. The idea of paying money for such ephemeral (borderline erudite word, this is a callback) recognition is really sad.

(I didn't intend for this to turn into a rant, but I guess it did anyway.)



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05 Aug 2023, 12:14 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
If you want to make it as a livestreamer these days, you got to have safe, inoffensive content that's advertiser friendly. You gotta be basic. You gotta be generic. You gotta be artificial. You gotta be boring. Political correctness is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened. You can't be edgy. You can't take off your shirt on camera if you're a guy. You can't use certain words or phrases. You probably can't even swear anymore. For god's sake, they banned the term Blind Playthrough so it wouldn't offend blind people. It's only a matter of time before YouTube catches up.

Good news is Livestreamers have stood up and said enough is enough. A lot of them are threatening to leave the platform.


I tried Twitch but I never saw the appeal. Youtube used to be good years ago, but it has become too mainstream and monetised. It feels to me, more corporate-like versus 5 or 10 years ago.


I use YouTube quite a lot. It has its ups and downs, but yeah, it's less about the users and more about pleasing corporations. What were they thinking getting rid of the dislike button?


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05 Aug 2023, 12:25 pm

I too can't imagine what would possess someone to watch someone else play videogames, let alone pay for it, but each to their own.

What I wanted to ask is, isn't edgy stuff better when it's subversive rather than permitted? Rules can force people to get creative, boundaries are there to be pushed, it's funnier when it's not allowed and when you feel like you're getting away with something.

Maybe Twitch isn't there yet, but maybe it will get there and be better for it?


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05 Aug 2023, 12:41 pm

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I too can't imagine what would possess someone to watch someone else play videogames, let alone pay for it, but each to their own.


For some it is to watch someone provide a guide, or to see their first time getting into a game, or to see another gamer's perspective on the game. Making money streaming video games isn't really a bad way to get some income.


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05 Aug 2023, 12:45 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
blitzkrieg wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
If you want to make it as a livestreamer these days, you got to have safe, inoffensive content that's advertiser friendly. You gotta be basic. You gotta be generic. You gotta be artificial. You gotta be boring. Political correctness is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened. You can't be edgy. You can't take off your shirt on camera if you're a guy. You can't use certain words or phrases. You probably can't even swear anymore. For god's sake, they banned the term Blind Playthrough so it wouldn't offend blind people. It's only a matter of time before YouTube catches up.

Good news is Livestreamers have stood up and said enough is enough. A lot of them are threatening to leave the platform.


I tried Twitch but I never saw the appeal. Youtube used to be good years ago, but it has become too mainstream and monetised. It feels to me, more corporate-like versus 5 or 10 years ago.


I use YouTube quite a lot. It has its ups and downs, but yeah, it's less about the users and more about pleasing corporations. What were they thinking getting rid of the dislike button?


They probably got rid of it due to snowflakes crying when their video received dislikes. :skull: :lol:



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05 Aug 2023, 12:53 pm

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Making money streaming video games isn't really a bad way to get some income.


Sounds like a fantastic way to make money if you can do it.


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05 Aug 2023, 12:59 pm

blitzkrieg wrote:
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Aspiegaming wrote:
If you want to make it as a livestreamer these days, you got to have safe, inoffensive content that's advertiser friendly. You gotta be basic. You gotta be generic. You gotta be artificial. You gotta be boring. Political correctness is going too far that free speech and comedy are being threatened. You can't be edgy. You can't take off your shirt on camera if you're a guy. You can't use certain words or phrases. You probably can't even swear anymore. For god's sake, they banned the term Blind Playthrough so it wouldn't offend blind people. It's only a matter of time before YouTube catches up.

Good news is Livestreamers have stood up and said enough is enough. A lot of them are threatening to leave the platform.


I tried Twitch but I never saw the appeal. Youtube used to be good years ago, but it has become too mainstream and monetised. It feels to me, more corporate-like versus 5 or 10 years ago.


I use YouTube quite a lot. It has its ups and downs, but yeah, it's less about the users and more about pleasing corporations. What were they thinking getting rid of the dislike button?


They probably got rid of it due to snowflakes crying when their video received dislikes. :skull: :lol:


They say it was so that YouTube's annual rewind videos would stop getting disliked to hell and for movie studios who make box office poison to stop getting their movie trailers disliked to hell. The downsides are scams can run rampant because the dislikes showed us what was legit or not. Bad content creators can ignore the dislikes (because only they can see them and we can't) and double down on making more garbage instead of getting better. We're living in a world where it's the audience's fault and not the creator's. The audience are bigots because they just don't get real art, nevermind that certain creators have no talent to tell a compelling story with good characters.


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05 Aug 2023, 1:00 pm

DuckHairback wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
Making money streaming video games isn't really a bad way to get some income.


Sounds like a fantastic way to make money if you can do it.


The biggest challenge is getting popular enough.


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