16 Dec 2012, 7:48 pm
16 Dec 2012, 7:54 pm
16 Dec 2012, 7:57 pm
16 Dec 2012, 8:15 pm
16 Dec 2012, 8:19 pm
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me! 
16 Dec 2012, 8:23 pm
16 Dec 2012, 8:24 pm
Odin wrote:
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me!
A truly unhinged person might see children as demons or monsters.
ruveyn
16 Dec 2012, 9:08 pm
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16 Dec 2012, 9:14 pm
ruveyn wrote:
Odin wrote:
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me!
A truly unhinged person might see children as demons or monsters.
ruveyn
Or he was expressing his all consuming, incomprehensible hatred in his soul by such a despicable act.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
16 Dec 2012, 9:25 pm
16 Dec 2012, 9:48 pm
ruveyn wrote:
Odin wrote:
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me!
A truly unhinged person might see children as demons or monsters.
ruveyn
This is kind of off-the-wall but his mother is being reported as a doomsday prepper type. What if he was convinced the world will really end soon so he decided to just go crazy and do this? What if the motive is he believed the world is about to end?
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16 Dec 2012, 9:53 pm
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Odin wrote:
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me!
A truly unhinged person might see children as demons or monsters.
ruveyn
This is kind of off-the-wall but his mother is being reported as a doomsday prepper type. What if he was convinced the world will really end soon so he decided to just go crazy and do this? What if the motive is he believed the world is about to end?
Being that the FBI is taking a look at Lanza's computer in order to find a motive, we may very well discover you're right.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
16 Dec 2012, 9:58 pm
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Odin wrote:
I don't get how somebody could look at a cute little kid and SHOOT THEM! This is just unfathomable to me!
A truly unhinged person might see children as demons or monsters.
ruveyn
This is kind of off-the-wall but his mother is being reported as a doomsday prepper type. What if he was convinced the world will really end soon so he decided to just go crazy and do this? What if the motive is he believed the world is about to end?
I was thinking the same thing. If he imprinted on her really deeply and took what she said literally, he could've seriously been convinced the world was going to end. I've never been convinced of that before but I imagine it's a terrifying thing to be convinced of. Perhaps him killing others had something to do with that idea of the world ending -- either to save them or to kill them to stop the world ending.
Every aspect of what happened is a tragedy. I can't help thinking if she were more responsible about what she was telling a son who probably took things literally, maybe this all wouldn't have happened.
16 Dec 2012, 10:54 pm
So what if his mother had been a "prepper"?
So what if he had easy access to guns?
He was 20 years old and therefor legally responsible for himself.
The bottom line is if someone who worked at that school (teacher, principal, janitor, cook, secretary, or whoever) had been armed they could have put a few holes in him before it got as far as it did. It's a gun free zone so it was a soft target. Soft targets are weakness and weakness invites attack for the obvious reasons.
Chances are he wouldn't have gone there had not not been a gun free zone and if he had he would have very likely met resistance.
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16 Dec 2012, 11:08 pm
Raptor wrote:
So what if his mother had been a "prepper"?
So what if he had easy access to guns?
He was 20 years old and therefor legally responsible for himself.
The bottom line is if someone who worked at that school (teacher, principal, janitor, cook, secretary, or whoever) had been armed they could have put a few holes in him before it got as far as it did. It's a gun free zone so it was a soft target. Soft targets are weakness and weakness invites attack for the obvious reasons.
Chances are he wouldn't have gone there had not not been a gun free zone and if he had he would have very likely met resistance.
So what if he had easy access to guns?
He was 20 years old and therefor legally responsible for himself.
The bottom line is if someone who worked at that school (teacher, principal, janitor, cook, secretary, or whoever) had been armed they could have put a few holes in him before it got as far as it did. It's a gun free zone so it was a soft target. Soft targets are weakness and weakness invites attack for the obvious reasons.
Chances are he wouldn't have gone there had not not been a gun free zone and if he had he would have very likely met resistance.
I would prefer to have the lunatics stopped by security before they can get inside the school. After all, with teachers or janitors shooting back, I'd think that alone could cause the body count to rise just by accident of friendly fire.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
16 Dec 2012, 11:09 pm
Raptor wrote:
So what if his mother had been a "prepper"?
So what if he had easy access to guns?
He was 20 years old and therefor legally responsible for himself.
The bottom line is if someone who worked at that school (teacher, principal, janitor, cook, secretary, or whoever) had been armed they could have put a few holes in him before it got as far as it did. It's a gun free zone so it was a soft target. Soft targets are weakness and weakness invites attack for the obvious reasons.
Chances are he wouldn't have gone there had not not been a gun free zone and if he had he would have very likely met resistance.
So what if he had easy access to guns?
He was 20 years old and therefor legally responsible for himself.
The bottom line is if someone who worked at that school (teacher, principal, janitor, cook, secretary, or whoever) had been armed they could have put a few holes in him before it got as far as it did. It's a gun free zone so it was a soft target. Soft targets are weakness and weakness invites attack for the obvious reasons.
Chances are he wouldn't have gone there had not not been a gun free zone and if he had he would have very likely met resistance.
I'm not trying to get into an argument, here. I'm just presenting possible ideas of what happened. The truth is we can't see inside this kid's mind or ask him what his motivation was because he's dead. Even looking at his computer will only give us information he wanted to write down -- which isn't necessarily everything that was going on in his mind. We can only try to see where there might have been holes in the system that made accomplishing this heinous act more easy. My aim was to look at the greater picture critically and try to see, with consideration to my experience in psychology and security, where we could potentially prevent this from happening again.
After all, if there were nothing wrong with the systems in place, it's hard to imagine how something could go so wrong...
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