Is there a country on Earth where Caucasians are "thriving"?
Weren't they over 30% of the world population at some point though, and today has declined by more than 20%?
Thirty percent still isnt a "majority".
Historically "Whites" (in the narrow sense of meaning pallid Europeans) were only a majority in their home landmass of Europe.
After 1500 Whites spread to the rest of the world in the ages of discovery and colonization.
And then around 1800 European and American cities got better sewer systems- causing the main cause of death (infectious diseases) to suddenly disappear (this even before advances in medicine to fight germs were made). The drop in deaths in advanced countries caused a population explosion in advanced countries that continued into the 20th century. Since advanced countries happed to be White -whites grew in proportion to the world population. Peaking at an abnormally high 30 percent.
Then in the 20th century non white countries caught up in reducing their death rates and also experienced the population tidal wave. This occurred as the White countries entered the next phase- the phase of declining births to make up for the decline in deaths. So though absolute numbers of folks of every skin color continued to rise the proportion of Whites began to fall from the abnormal high of 30 percent reached around 1900.
As modernity progressed in the late 20th and 21st centuries in poor nonwhite countries births also started to fall as well. Eventually the whole world will probably stabilize in birth rate to near replacement rate in the next century (if we dont all blow ourselves up before that). So the ratio between folks of different skin color will stablilize.
As Thomas Friedman has pointed out -- the world is flat. The U.S. is the only remaining superpower and the U.S. is racially diverse. Which brings me to the main point. Race does not matter. Culture and value do matter.
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As Thomas Friedman has pointed out -- the world is flat. The U.S. is the only remaining superpower and the U.S. is racially diverse. Which brings me to the main point. Race does not matter. Culture and value do matter.
Race matters to people.
I was just at the Detroit fireworks show, and nothing but black people in the parks, on the streets, on the overpasses, for miles and miles of street.
Not a white, Asian, or Hispanic.
People live among their own kind.
Yeah, I don't see it being that rosy and cheerful. Humans build their societies on pyramid schemes, they require a constant influx of new blood at the bottom to support that at the top. Populations in western countries are still growing, just at a much lower rate than they were 100 years ago. When there are more older people than younger people the pyramid becomes top-heavy and crashes-- just like a pyramid scheme. So for population to stabilize would require a different system to function, and I really don't think humans are capable of another system.
Possibly Fiji.
The whites there are a generally far more privileged minority in terms of wealth, education and advantage (either acquired in other countries, or by inheritance, brought with them as immigrant residents). Most that I know of have settled there for commercial reasons - cheap labour, cheap operating costs, while still being able to access international markets. Others are professionals eg engineers involved in long term development projects at high wages that the native population are largely excluded from.
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Someone mentioned New Zealand. Whites are not a minority group in NZ, they are a very dominant majority, and power sharing is far being from completed ideal here.
I think the same may be true of Cambodia. The New Zealanders who I know of who live there are retirees who chose it because of their economic advantage, they can live like kings in Cambodia in a way not possible in their own country, enjoying a level of advantage that was destroyed for Cambodians by the crazed tyranny of the tragic years of internal oppression (and the particular genocide of educated Cambodians by Pol Pot), the carpet bombing years of intervention by the US, the way that survivors had to flee as refugees (a number came to New Zealand and have thrived here, very hard working, self-sufficient, polite people who are extremely family oriented. They integrated here more successfully than many other groups). Whites who settle in the third world generally seem to enjoy a level of privilege that is intrinsically related to their motives for going to live there.
The NZ-settled Cambodian family that I know best fled from the insanity of Pol Pot over the border to Thailand, where they spent 7 years in a refugee camp before being resettled by the UN to New Zealand. They arrived in the 1980s with no financial assets left, with no knowledge of English language or culture. They have acquired all of these things by their own determination in the years since, and assimilated into the wider culture as bilingual people who have very successfully integrated as bicultural citizens.
New Zealand has also been a new home for a great many white South Africans who came here when their institutionalised privilege ended in South Africa. Some arrived with the (mistaken) idea that their racism would successfully transplant here and be tolerated without challenge. Others fled because they hated the racism in South Africa and saw New Zealand as a country that was not as contaminated by it.
Did you remove my comment and then post something along the same lines but about white people?
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To be honest I don't know how to answer the OP question because one can define "thriving" any number of ways. I'm not being an aspie a-hat here for a philosophical point, I'm curious are we talking wealth, population, raw power or a mix? I say this because if we look at say Mexico, the majority population is a mulatto, but the white aristocrats from the left-over Spanish empire still control a large portion of power through politics and economy-- same for a lot of South American countries and some African countries.
I'm not clear either, what the OP actually meant by "it sucks to be white", and a further confusion is the thread title of "is there any country on Earth where Caucasians are thriving?" How are these supposed to be parsed together?
OP were you meaning to imply that Caucasians are relatively disadvantaged compared to other groups in a global sense? Or what?
OP were you meaning to imply that Caucasians are relatively disadvantaged compared to other groups in a global sense? Or what?
I meant white populations being displaced by other races. I know that ethnicities and race are evolving all the time, but what's happening to recessive genes like red or fair hair?
I don't like generalizations like all Americans are ignorant, all Israelis hate white people (which is not the usual stereotype actually I hear about them, you just made it up), all Japanese are introverted nerds etc etc
There are no natives. There was nothing in Israel definitely not natives like in America before whites got there. Before 1948 there were approx 600,000 jews in Israel and maybe a few million arabs (and I'm not making this up actually)... jews originally known to have olive skin... european white jews are part of assimilation with local noon-jewish population...
Now comes the "not sure" part of me shooting in the dark and throwing numbers: most Israelis ain't white, maybe 30% are, not more. 1 out of 5. When there is marriage between dark/white mixed, the dark gene gets priority over the reccessive "white" gene. That's true anywhere in the word statistically. And I guess that's why white minorities don't thrive....
It's powerful Zionists that hate white people, part of the reason they left Europe was so they didn't lose "their identity". There have been books like "Hitler's Willing Executioners" that basically says that Germans had been waiting for all eternity to try and kill Jews and it got wonderful reviews in the media. They hate us for delaying their statehood, especially Brits.
What are you talking about? How can there be "nothing in Israel" before they got there, but there was a "few million Arabs" in the next sentence? The theory that Palestine was empty has been long debunked, by Norman Finkelstein in the 1980's. A lot of those Jews had come in around the turn of the century, up to the 40's and had been buying property in Palestine.
It doesn't matter, they are still seen as Jews in the ethnic sense. But in reality a lot of them are just Europeans.
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Did you remove my comment and then post something along the same lines but about white people?
No, I haven't removed any comments.
Oh yeah, sorry.
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