puddingmouse wrote:
Other than the IQ population studies we've discussed in the past, do you have any sources? Also, schizophrenia is partly caused by environmental factors. It's much higher in poor whites than it is in more wealthy ones, for example.
Schizophrenia, in Moroccans, is several times higher than in any other ethnic group. Picture the rate of schizophrenia steadily going up as wealth goes down, and picture a sudden spike four to six times as high for Moroccans in general regardless of income. Moroccans and Turks also form 80% of officially mentally-retarded children in Amsterdam, despite constituting only approximately 15% of the total population. There are even suggestions that the actual number, due to their families sending them back to their countries of origin and due to hiding them from authorities or not acknowledging mental handicaps, could be even higher. Of all criminal youths, which is 65% of Moroccan men between the ages of 12 and 22, 'at least half' were at least slightly mentally ret*d following Marigo Teeuwen of the University of Amsterdam. If both figures are correct, that would amount to at least 32.5% of Moroccan men being at least slightly mentally ret*d.
puddingmouse wrote:
The only solution to the problems caused by inbreeding is erm, outbreeding? Surely it's better for someone who comes from an ethnic group prone to a certain medical problem to have a baby with someone from another group not prone to it, than to choose someone related to them and have a much higher chance of having offspring with the problem.
Or you could take the easy route, the one I'd pick with dogs and cattle, just let them go, and breed on with the majority of the total population not affected by these severe medical conditions. You can start outbreeding, but for the first - at least - two or three generations, you'll simply have people with a significantly-elevated risk where you could have had people with a normal risk. Is racial mixing really worth three generations with much larger numbers of ret*d, schizophrenic and paralysed children? That's a lot of human suffering just because some people don't like the idea of black and white people existing.
And there isn't actually a problem with inbreeding in most of the world. In Europeans, inbreeding is rare. In Asians, inbreeding is rare. Even in the most remote African tribes, inbreeding is rare. There is absolutely no reason to endorse this from the 'stopping inbreeding' point of view. If mixed-race breeding was endorsed or encouraged, it would be purely political and social.
puddingmouse wrote:
I'm no expert, but I think your sources are suspect, if you're not just making up your own theories about genetics. I'll admit that's what I'm doing.
These sources are often hard to get by, because it's a heavy political taboo. Marriages between cousins were actually kept legal to suit the Moroccan and Turkish part of the population.
You shouldn't automatically assume that Moroccans as a group are genetically inferior, you mention in your post cousin marriage, the
act of encouraging first cousin marriages is always going to cause an increase in genetic problems, if you take that same person and have them procreate with someone who isn't related to them so closely the genetic issues will not arise.
13 Aug 2012, 5:14 pm
