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30 Jun 2009, 10:25 pm

Twenty Twelve topic

Apparently with what the British Queen spends per year [reportedly 85 million dollars (Canadian)] the Royal family will be broke by 20 12. (I saw a news clip about this on CTV News Channel June 30th.) I hope not. :roll:


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10 Jul 2009, 6:09 am

I've been reading a lot about 2012 lately, so it's of no big surprise that I had a dream where my subconscious tied a lot of what I've been thinking about together.

In the dream, something did happen on 21 Dec 2012, and whatever it was had the effect of shutting down all the tv signals, radio signals, mobile phone networks, etc, creating a state of silence around the world. It turned out that (in the dream!) all those signals had been creating a suppression field around the world, blocking our own brain waves from functioning perfectly. Once that field was no longer there, all the autistic people in the world "switched on" and created a telepathic network that allowed the instant transfer of thoughts and knowledge. Basically, we became a big internet, and all of those autistic "special interests", all that memorised data became accessible by any autistic person, wherever they were.

It was a dream, but I like it's implications. The Bible does say that the meek will inherit the Earth, and I've seen many people reference that verse when talking about autists, so I think it would be cool if that was what was going to happen in 2012.



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10 Jul 2009, 11:20 pm

I wouldnt take anything seriously from a culture that performed human sacrafice which is unforiveable because each life is precious and each person has there contributions and to lose a life for something has pointless has religion.So they are hardly prophetic truth.That and I wont be 21 and I will never enjoy being to able to buy booze.



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10 Jul 2009, 11:51 pm

Heh Magnus, despite the decadency of their culture, meso american civilization is one out of 6 "prime" civilizations in archeology. And besides, every culture in its own way promotes human "sacrifice" ^.- even the West, although it has a more economic meaning then.



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10 Jul 2009, 11:53 pm

Irvy wrote:
I've been reading a lot about 2012 lately, so it's of no big surprise that I had a dream where my subconscious tied a lot of what I've been thinking about together.

In the dream, something did happen on 21 Dec 2012, and whatever it was had the effect of shutting down all the tv signals, radio signals, mobile phone networks, etc, creating a state of silence around the world. It turned out that (in the dream!) all those signals had been creating a suppression field around the world, blocking our own brain waves from functioning perfectly. Once that field was no longer there, all the autistic people in the world "switched on" and created a telepathic network that allowed the instant transfer of thoughts and knowledge. Basically, we became a big internet, and all of those autistic "special interests", all that memorised data became accessible by any autistic person, wherever they were.

It was a dream, but I like it's implications. The Bible does say that the meek will inherit the Earth, and I've seen many people reference that verse when talking about autists, so I think it would be cool if that was what was going to happen in 2012.


Considering the general intellectual level of the posts on the internet an avalanche of that level of thought on the human race would be comparable to the cosmological disaster that destroyed the dinosaurs. The prediction that the meek will inherit the Earth is probably right on in that the bacteria are about the meekest active life forms and most likely to survive the major ecological disasters enthusiastically engendered by humanity. It may be a long struggle for multicelled forms to re-occur but we are quite a ways from the heat death of the universe and nature is very patient. If nothing else, some sort of disaster on December 21 will put a major kink in Christmas shopping.



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11 Jul 2009, 6:34 am

Sand wrote:
. The prediction that the meek will inherit the Earth is probably right on in that the bacteria are about the meekest active life forms and most likely to survive the major ecological disasters enthusiastically engendered by humanity. It may be a long struggle for multicelled forms to re-occur but we are quite a ways from the heat death of the universe and nature is very patient.


One celled critters outweigh all the other living matter on this planet by at least ten to one. The dominant life form on the planet Earth are one celled biota. We of the multi-celled persuasion are the New Biota on the Block. We came into being during the Cambrian Era about 530,000,000 years ago. Mammals only made it Big Time after the Saurians were dispatched about 65,000,000 years ago. Hominids have only been around for 5,000,000 years and homo-sape for maybe 250,000 years. We are very new to the neighborhood.

For beings who have just appeared in a Cosmic Blink of the Eye we have a very high opinion of ourselves.

Hell! Humans have learned to read and write only in the last five or six thousand years. That is just about the time when the Fundies believe the Lord Created us from Dirt. Given the way we behave, maybe we were created from Dirt.

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11 Jul 2009, 2:33 pm

True the meso american cultures were great if only all cultures understood that human sacrafice is ignorant for no matter what purpose,because you never know if you changed the future of human civilazation for the worse thats why time travel no matter how much fun it would be is dangerous.



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11 Jul 2009, 9:13 pm

MagnusArmstrong wrote:
True the meso american cultures were great if only all cultures understood that human sacrafice is ignorant for no matter what purpose,because you never know if you changed the future of human civilazation for the worse thats why time travel no matter how much fun it would be is dangerous.


The only time travel we know now that is valid is a few zips around the universe approaching the speed of light and return to discover that humanity has long disappeared or that the travelers are so out of date they must be confined to a kind of zoo to preserve their sanity. Not really dangerous.



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12 Jul 2009, 5:26 am

Sand wrote:
MagnusArmstrong wrote:
True the meso american cultures were great if only all cultures understood that human sacrafice is ignorant for no matter what purpose,because you never know if you changed the future of human civilazation for the worse thats why time travel no matter how much fun it would be is dangerous.


The only time travel we know now that is valid is a few zips around the universe approaching the speed of light and return to discover that humanity has long disappeared or that the travelers are so out of date they must be confined to a kind of zoo to preserve their sanity. Not really dangerous.

Hey we're time travelling all the time. Perhaps only forward in time, and we can't really change the speed of this time travel, but it's time travelling none the less. :lol:


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12 Jul 2009, 11:47 am

Ah but you see henrik, time travel assumes you have control over time, whereas in our daily lives, we merely go with the flow of it, wether we want it or not.

And huh.... unrelated question, but is MagnusArmstrong = Magnus? <.<



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12 Jul 2009, 12:34 pm

phil777 wrote:
Ah but you see henrik, time travel assumes you have control over time, whereas in our daily lives, we merely go with the flow of it, wether we want it or not.

*grumbles* After reading the most common definition of time travel, I concede you are right... >.<

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And huh.... unrelated question, but is MagnusArmstrong = Magnus? <.<

He's like Magnus, but apparently stronger in the arms. And, if I may say so, less inclined to believe in unsbstantiated claims.


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12 Jul 2009, 12:51 pm

Maybe the whole 2012 thing will end up being a huge self-fulfilling prophecy?



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12 Jul 2009, 2:46 pm

Cyanide wrote:
Maybe the whole 2012 thing will end up being a huge self-fulfilling prophecy?


that is my thoughts


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12 Jul 2009, 9:35 pm

If thats the case lets hope its not to late to stop it because if does happen one must remeber nothing is set in stone.


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15 Jul 2009, 3:23 pm

2012 will mean one thing...Another Presidential election

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The movie looks good. Am a BIG sci-fi nerd.

If something is scheduled for 2012, no one knows.
When we get closer to 2012, everything will fluctuate like crazy!


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15 Jul 2009, 10:25 pm

Although the concept of knowing before-hand of the end of the world is something that re-occurs regularly and is regularly proven to be nonsense it does provide a window of opportunity to commercial enterprises to gain some profit from panicked idiots. And since a very large sector of humanity is idiotic an enterprising businessman can do well in the temporary generation of fear. The only business that has done well in the continuously generated atmosphere of fear from individual death is religion but false general fears do present a commercial opportunity.