If marijuana's illegal, why isn't milk?

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Yes. Stated in most general terms you want government to deter and punish such activities as theft, fraud and extortion. By the way these activities are more often committed by governments than by private business organizations, firms or private associations of individuals. Why? Because the government has the heavy weapons. In the twentieth century the body count attributable to governments was somewhere between two hundred and three hundred million.

ruveyn

So can sh**. Marijuana is not raised primarily as a food source. Milk on the other hand is nature's very own food for young mammals. Humans have learned to tolerate milk and dairy products (particularly cheese) as food for non-infants.

ruveyn

depends. Did Bob's cousin report the "Worst Real Estate Crisis Since Great Depression" despite the fact that Housing data only goes back to 1968 and Census data before 1960 skips to once every 10 years. Which amounts to statistics depending only on the memories of people selling houses in the 1930s? (who also visit the survey website, which is less than 15,000 a month for the real estate site and less than 100 for the survey site that you indicated).

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/40020

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/ ... cline.html


So out of less than 100 people. 83% think that marijuana should be legalized. ........ and that is the majority of the US?

Can you say this isn't the worst real estate collapse since the depression?

you can say whatever you want. Now if you want to be accurate, you would say the worst housing crisis since 1968. But I don't think this conversation is about accuracy...

Marijuana is not raised primarily as a food source.

Bingo! Prohibition never, ever, ever works. Not once. Not ever. It not only does not solve "the problem" but it corrupts the legal system.

ruveyn

Perhaps banning narcotics in order to fight drug addiction is a futile exercise in your multiculti, nihilistic, Blade-Runner-esque society, but suggesting that the same has to be true everywhere is just typical liberal defeatism.

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana

Quite right. It's about justifying your emotional responses in the light of rational sense.

Bingo! Prohibition never, ever, ever works. Not once. Not ever. It not only does not solve "the problem" but it corrupts the legal system.

Prohibition never, ever, ever works. Not once. Not ever.

"I want what I want and no one should be able to stop me from having it" 'rationality'.

Or I could go to a toy store and watch a 2 year old scream and kick and bite because they can't have that Barbie that they sooo desperately NEED.

He's not familiar with alcohol prohibition here in the states and he's not familiar with what the reality is as far as how the legal status of drugs effects communities because he's sheltered from the real crime areas.

I'd like to see him living some of the neighborhoods I've been in and say that the legal state of drugs is helping things.

From http://www.sarnia.com/GROUPS/ANTIDRUG/a ... myths.html

History provides evidence that legalization of drugs in foreign nations has not been successful. For example, opium was legalized in China earlier this century. That decision resulted in 90 million addicts and it took a half-century to repair the damage.

Egypt allowed unrestricted trade of cocaine and heroin in the 1920s. An epidemic of addiction resulted. Even in Iran and Thailand, countries where drugs are readily available, the prevalence of addiction continues to soar.

Modern-day Netherlands is often cited as a country which has successfully legalized drugs. Marijuana is sold over the counter and police seldom arrest cocaine and heroin users. But official tolerance has led to significant increases in addiction. Amsterdam's officials blame the significant rise in crime on the liberal drug policy. The city's 7,000 addicts are blamed for 80 percent of all property crime and Amsterdam's rate of burglary is now twice that of Newark, New Jersey. Drug problems have forced the city to increase the size of the police force and the city fathers are now rethinking the drug policy.

Dr. K. F. Gunning, president of the Dutch National Committee on Drug Prevention, cites some revealing statistics about drug abuse and crime. Cannabis use among students increased 250 percent from 1984 to 1992. During the same period, shootings rose 40 percent, car thefts increased 62 percent, and hold-ups rose 69 percent.

Sweden legalized doctor prescriptions of amphetamines in 1965. During the first year of legalization, the number of intravenous"speed" addicts rose 88.5 percent. A study of men arrested during the legalization period showed a high correlation between intravenous use and a variety of crimes.

Dr. Nils Bejorot, director of the Swedish Carnegie Institute and professor of social medicine at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, believes the solution to the growing drug problem is consistent social and legal harassment of both users and dealers.

Great Britain experimented with controlled distribution of heroin between 1959 and 1968. According to the British Medical Journal, the number of heroin addicts doubled every sixteen months and the increase in addicts was accompanied by an increase in criminal activity as well. And British authorities found that heroin addicts have a very good chance of dying prematurely. On the crime front, Scotland Yard had to increase its narcotics squad 100 percent to combat the crime caused by the "legal" addicts.

The Swiss opened a "legalized drug" area in Zurich seven years ago and local addicts were given drugs, clean needles, and emergency medical care. Unfortunately, the liberal policy backfired and the number of addicts surged to 3,500; violence surged, too. "Needle Park," as it came to be known, was a place of open warfare among rival gangs, and even police faced gunfire. Their cars were attacked and overturned. In February 1995, officials ended the experiment, conceding that it had evolved into a grotesque spectacle.

In April 1994, the mayors of 21 major European cities formed a group called "European Cities Against Drugs," an acknowledgement that legalization had failed.