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No, I'm not trying to excuse Luther, but in all fairness, the man wasn't in his right mind when he wrote and said those ugly things. Luther's colleges and his wife tried arguing with him about his Antisemitism, and after his death tried to keep these writings suppressed. It was only in the twentieth century that the Nazis resurrected this ugliness, which for the most part probably would have otherwise remained forgotten.

The Jews who have arrived would nearly all like to remain here, but learning that they (with their customary usury and deceitful trading with the Christians) were very repugnant to the inferior magistrates, as also to the people having the most affection for you; the Deaconry also fearing that owing to their present indigence they might become a charge in the coming winter, we have, for the benefit of this weak newly developing place and land in general, deemed it useful to require them in a friendly way to depart; praying also most seriously in this connection, for ourselves also for the general community of your worships, that the deceitful race - such hateful enemies and blasphemers of the name of Christ - not be allowed further to infect and trouble this new colony.

—Peter Styvesant, Letter to the Amsterdam Chamber of the Dutch West India Company, from New Amsterdam, September 22, 1654.

If we read the history of the Jews written by an author of another nation, we would have sorrow to believe that there were indeed fugitive people of Egypt which came by express order from God immoler seven or eight small nations that they didn't know; to cut the throat without mercy of a woman, old men and children with the udder, and to reserve only the small girls; that these holy people were punished of his God when it had been enough criminal to save only one man devoted to the anathema. We would not believe that so abominable people (Jews) had been able to exist on the earth. But as this nation itself brings back all its facts in its holy books to us, it should be believed.

—Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 1, pages 158–159

[The Jewish nation] dares spread an irreconcilable hatred against all nations; it revolts against all its masters. Always superstitious, always avid of the well-being enjoyed by others, always barbarous, crawling in misfortune, and insolent in prosperity. Here are what were the Jews in the eyes of the Greeks and the Romans who could read their books.

—Voltaire, Essai sur les mœurs (1756) Tome 1, page 186

Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the most vile nation in the world.

—Napoleon Bonaparte, Letter to his brother Jerome, King of Westphalia, March 6, 1808

(1) Every big and small Jew is the peddling trade must renew his license every year.
(2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew can prove that he has obtained the money without cheating.

—Napoleon Bonaparte, Ordinance of March 17, 1808. Napoleonic Code.

I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into post commanders, the special regulations of the Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that I instructed the commanding officers at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying gold.

—Ulysses S. Grant, Letters to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war, Washington, December 17, 1862

1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department, and also Department orders, are hereby expelled from the Department.
2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by Post Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning after such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permits from these headquarters.
3. No permits will be given these people to visit headquarters for the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
By order of Major Gen. Grant Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant General

—Ulysses S. Grant, General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862

Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild.
This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail ....

—Michael Bakunin, Personliche Beziehungen zu Marx (1871). In: Gesammelte Werke. Band 3. Berlin 1924. P. 204-216

In the U.S. cotton states, after the war... the Jew came down in force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the Negroes' wants on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the Negro's share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before long, the whites detested the Jew. (1)
The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop; the next year he owned the farm - like Joseph. (2)
In the England of John's time everybody got into debt to the Jew. He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King of Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons, Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of centuries later.
In all ages Christian Europe has been obliged to curtail his activities. If he entered upon a trade, the Christian had to retire from it. If he set up as a doctor, he took the business. If he exploited agriculture, the other farmers had to get at something else. The law had to step in to save the Christian from the poor-house. Still, almost bereft of employments, he found ways to make money. Even to get rich. This history has a most sordid and practical commercial look. Religious prejudices may account for one part of it, bit not for the other nine.
Protestants have persecuted Catholics - but they did not take their livelihoods away from them. Catholics have persecuted Protestants - bit they never closed agriculture and the handicrafts against them. I feel convinced that the Crucifixion has not much to do with the world's attitude toward the Jew; that the reasons for it are much older than that event ...
I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy.
You will say that the Jew is everywhere numerically feeble. When I read in the Cyclopedia Britannica that the Jewish population in the United States was 250,000 I wrote the editor and explained to him that I was personally acquainted with more Jews than that, and that his figures were without doubt a misprint for 25,000,000. People told me that they had reasons to suspect that for business reasons, many Jews did not report themselves as Jews. It looks plausible. I am strongly of the opinion that we have an immense Jewish population in America. I am assured by men competent to speak that the Jews are exceedingly active in politics.

—Mark Twain, Concerning the Jews, In: Harper's Monthly Magazine, September 1899

The International Jewish plan to move their money market to the United States was what the American people did rot want. We have the warning of history as to what this means. It has meant in turn that Spain, Venice, Germany or Great Britain received the blame or suspicion of the world for what the Jewish financiers have done. It is a most important consideration that most of the national animosities that exist today arose out of resentment against what Jewish money power did under the camouflage of national names.

"The British did this," "The Germans did this," when it was the International Jew who did it, the nations being but the marked spaces on his checker board. Today, around the world the blaming word is heard, "The United States did this. If it were not for the United States the world would be in a better shape. The Americans are a sordid, greedy, cruel people."

Why? Because the Jewish money power is centered here and is making money out of both our immunity and Europe's distress, playing one against the other; and because so many so-called "American business men" abroad today are not Americans at all - they are Jews.

Citizens wake up with a start to find that even the white nations are hardly allowed to see each other nowadays except through Jewish eyes. Great Britain and France seldom see a special American spokesman who is not a Jew. That may be the reason why they reciprocate by sending Jews to us, thinking perhaps that we prefer them.

—Henry Ford, The International Jew : The World's Foremost Problem (1920), chapter 1

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish efforts rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxemburg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide revolutionary conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster has ably shown, a definite recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworlds of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of the enormous empire.
There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creating of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is certainly the very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders... In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astounding. And the prominent if not the principal part in the system of terrorism applied by the extraordinary Commissions for combating Counter Revolution has been take by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many nonJews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing.

—Winston Churchill, Zionism versus Bolshevism: A Struggle for the Soul of the Jewish People. In : Illustrated Sunday Herald, London, February 8, 1920.

Director Oliver Stone downplayed the Holocaust during an interview with the Sunday Times today, claiming that America's focus on the genocide of Jews was a product of the "Jewish domination of the media." The director also defended Hitler and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and railed against the "powerful lobby" of Jews in America.

"Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support," Stone told reporter Camilla Long during the interview, which can be found behind the paywall on the Sunday Times' website. Stone said that, "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 [million killed]."

The Sunday Times interviewer then asked why there was such a focus on the Holocaust. "The Jewish domination of the media," responded Stone. "There's a major lobby in the United States. They are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington. Israel has f***** up United States foreign policy for years."

The director, who recently met with Iranian President Ahmadinejad, also slammed the U.S. policy toward Iran as "horrible." He added: "Iran isn't necessarily the good guy, but we don't know the full story!"

Martin Luther and Richard Wagner have membership numbers 1 and 2 in the NSDAP.

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"Do note that this is NOT an endorsement of antisemitism but rather a wake-up call for those who see to think that all antisemites are evil morons and all Jews are innocent victims."

Anti-Semitism, hating a race because they are that race is ABSOLUTELY evil moronic behaviour. It is equally as ridiculous and evil as any other mass stereotyping race-based BS, because it leads to the idiot thinking that ALL Jews are the same.

So what if there are evil jews? There are evil people everywhere in all cultures and creeds. There are BANKERS of as many creeds.

It is moronic, yes, but I wouldn't call it evil. People tend to generalise and this is not so much a matter of being evil as it is a matter of being unable to nuance.



True, however when Jews do evil things against gentiles (often in favor of the Jewish community) and based on a form of xenophobia that's very much alive within Jewish culture at large (both secular and religious), their Jewish background is relevant. It does not mean that all Jews are evil but it does imply that Jewish culture is dangerous and one must be careful with it.

BS. Gentiles have committed all manner of atrocity and selfish acts against all races and religions at one time or another, based on any number of ridiculous xenophobic ideas.

Using your logic, that dictates that the whole of human culture is dangerous, and one must be careful with it, gentile or otherwise. By numbers alone, gentiles must therefore be more dangerous to the world at large.

Usually there's a particular mindset, religion or ideology that's used as rhetoric to fuel or rationalise those attrocities and selfish acts. For example, Hitler used ideology to rationalise his antipathy towards Jews, Catholics used religion to rationalise their antipathy towards "heretics" and Whites in the American South used the concept of White superiority to rationalise enslaving Africans, etc. There's nothing wrong with criticising these mindsets, religions or ideologies for the harm people caused by using them in the defense of their actions, so why should we not be able to criticize Jewish culture when many aspects thereof are used to rationalise the exploitation, the hatred and/or the murder of gentiles.



Actually, you are right in the sense that every single human has an innate tendency towards cohesion or compassion with those of the same ethnic group and antipathy or hostility towards other ethnic groups. This tendency is smaller among some ethnic groups (eg. Whites, who tend to be individualists) and larger among other ethnic groups (eg. Hispanic people) but in no ethnic group is this tendency as strong as it is among Jews.

What proof do you have that the tendency is strongest amongst Jews?

Also, which parts of Jewish culture are used to rationalise exploitation and murder?

Do you have a point with that remark that I presume is supposed to be funny?!

It is nearly literally true. Martin Luther cursed the Jews and called for their physical destruction on his death bed, and Ricard Wagner (the composer) was a fervent Jew hater.

I assure you, there is nothing amusing about either of these Jew hating sons of b*****s.

In what way is your calling them "Jew hating sons of b*****s" any better than their antisemitism? How is this not the pot calling the kettle black?

Disliking people for their irrationalities is logical. Why? Irrationality is determined by choices. Disliking people because of their ancestors is not only irrational, it has lead to murder, war and destruction on a grand scale. No one chooses their ancestors.

Jews are not disliked for their ancestors. They're disliked because of their behavior and their actions that stem from an irrational mindset. .

You claim all Jews behave the same way?

I know a little more about that than you do. There are many kinds of Jews and a high variability among them pertaining to ethics, morals, social values etc. etc. The Orthodox are quite different in their behavior and values from the Reform for example. American Jews are quite unlike their European or Israeli counterparts.