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13 Apr 2011, 4:22 pm

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If I was said man mentioned here I would be calling for an inquiry as to why the effect of anaesthesia might not have been sufficient.

You would likely be told the anesthesia only addresses actual physical matters.

WOO is me topic

All of Sartresue is physical. During surgery, I should not be awake, or aWOO.

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13 Apr 2011, 6:13 pm

Ah, I think you are just trying to woo me ...

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woo
–verb (used with object)
1. to seek the favor, affection, or love of, especially with a view to marriage.
2. to seek to win: to woo fame.
3. to invite (consequences, whether good or bad) by one's own action; court: to woo one's own destruction.
4. to seek to persuade (a person, group, etc.), as to do something; solicit; importune.
–verb (used without object)
5. to make love to a woman; court: He went wooing.
6. to solicit favor or approval; entreat: Further attempts to woo proved useless.

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13 Apr 2011, 6:33 pm

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Ah, I think you are just trying to woo me ...

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Woo the day topic

heaven forbid!! :twisted:

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14 Apr 2011, 6:35 am

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reproduced by OTHERS. There is the independent corroberation.

That is why you can more justly believe a verified scientific finding ...

Sure, but that is not the kind of thing we are talking about here ...

... and is everything non-physical truly only "woo woo"?

That makes no sense.

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The report is not vague, and it is not being used to justify anything. I am simply curious as to how the man was later able to report something it would have been completely impossible for him to physically observe.

Basically you want to believe there are something non-physical but you don't even dare to specify what non-physical thing you are believing....

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14 Apr 2011, 6:44 am

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Basically you want to believe there are something non-physical but you don't even dare to specify what non-physical thing you are believing....

No, not at all. I am simply asking about possibilities.

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14 Apr 2011, 6:54 am

The only sensible explanation ever proposed is the scientific one, and seems to be good enough given there is little concrete fact to support of reject proposal. Are you proposing any better explanation?

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14 Apr 2011, 7:07 am

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The only sensible explanation ever proposed is the scientific one ...

What is that explanation?

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Are you proposing any ... explanation?

No.

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14 Apr 2011, 7:18 am

The whole report is delusion misinterpreted by the doctor as describing his 'unique movements'.

Why do you bring up this example?

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14 Apr 2011, 7:29 am

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The whole report is delusion misinterpreted by the doctor as describing his 'unique movements'.

What evidence do you have to support that opinion?

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Why do you bring up this example?

Because I am curious about it.

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14 Apr 2011, 7:40 am

Delusions are known to exist and describing motion by words are inaccurate. You have never established any case. What evidence do I need? What is your evidence that the man actually see anything?

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14 Apr 2011, 7:48 am

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What is your evidence that the man actually see anything?

After the surgery had ended and he was again awake, he specifically described some unusual-and-unique arm movements made by the doctor (along with some other things that could only be physically observed by someone present at the time).

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14 Apr 2011, 7:50 am

Nonsense. He is just saying some words the doctor thinks is describing his movement.

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14 Apr 2011, 8:02 am

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Nonsense. He is just saying some words the doctor thinks is describing his movement.

No, not at all. As part of helping to keep his hands sterile, that particular doctor uses his elbows to point at things during surgery.

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14 Apr 2011, 8:08 am

Here is the documentary at NetFlix ...

http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Nationa ... height3160

I will look to see whether it might be available elsewhere.

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14 Apr 2011, 9:14 pm

GAPS.

GAPS.

GAPS.

"Weird s**t, therefore god."

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15 Apr 2011, 7:22 am

Bethie wrote:

"Weird sh**, therefore god."

Why would there have to be a god in order for "weird s**t" to be real?

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