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01 Dec 2012, 10:46 am

Sylkat wrote:

That is really the point, I think; are they choosing?
Or are their families pressuring them?

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01 Dec 2012, 10:46 am

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If your choice is near-inslavement to a man in poverty or near-enslavement to a man in luxury, most people would choose the latter.

Not much of a romantic, are you?

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01 Dec 2012, 10:44 pm

The male clients were quoted as saying that 'hard work, appearance, and obedience' were the primary qualities that they were looking for. Not exactly 'romantic' in my book.

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01 Dec 2012, 10:47 pm

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The male clients were quoted as saying that 'hard work, appearance, and obedience' were the primary qualities that they were looking for. Not exactly 'romantic' in my book.

Try stretching romantic over a lifetime. I have been married to my spouse for 55 years. Romantic is not sufficient to maintain a relationship for that length of time. Compatibility trumps romance.

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01 Dec 2012, 11:10 pm

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The male clients were quoted as saying that 'hard work, appearance, and obedience' were the primary qualities that they were looking for. Not exactly 'romantic' in my book.

Very true indeed.

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01 Dec 2012, 11:30 pm

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The male clients were quoted as saying that 'hard work, appearance, and obedience' were the primary qualities that they were looking for. Not exactly 'romantic' in my book.

Ok, but I doubt that you treat your wife like a servant, and I doubt that her level of "obedience" was one of the things that you looked for in a wife. I have a hard time imagining you with someone less than 'fierce.'

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02 Dec 2012, 12:43 pm

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What's wrong with obedience on the part of a wife? And, who really wants to be pussywhipped by a fierce, shrewish wife?

It looks like even Jewish wives occasionally clean the house.

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02 Dec 2012, 3:29 pm

While not that all Vietnamese women are necessarily angels, a wife who won't treat you like this

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr9GgHthGAk[/youtube]

would be well worth the $10k finder's fee.

If she can cook, clean, take good care of a man's favourite appendage, and is a virgin to boot, then so much the better. :wink:

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02 Dec 2012, 4:42 pm

That's not romance. It's a business transaction. Again, I don't blame these women for their choice - given their options, it's logical - but to call it 'romantic' is beyond euphemistic. It's not about romance, it's not about partnership, it's not about companionship; it's about finding an aesthetically pleasing servant who has no other decent options.

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02 Dec 2012, 7:21 pm

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All marriages are business transactions. Most of the men who enter into these particular marriages perceive that they really have no better options, either. And, indeed most people who marry feel that they have found the best possible partner.

Of course it is about partnership and companionship. Is a man really going to lock his wife away in a closet? Of course he wants a companion.

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02 Dec 2012, 7:22 pm

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and is a virgin to boot, then so much the better. :wink:

Are you the type who cares about that?

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02 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

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This is why nobody in North America is allowed to b!tch about the job situation. :lol:

In all honesty though this is sad. We are millionaires compared to these poor peasant women.

I really detest this kind of logic.

If no workers in the western world complained because they kept comparing their experiences to workers in the developing hemisphere, they would never have won rights like the 40 hour week or the minimum wage.

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02 Dec 2012, 8:04 pm

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ArrantPariah wrote:

and is a virgin to boot, then so much the better. :wink:

Are you the type who cares about that?

In a large part of the world, female virginity is highly prized.

In Southeast Asia, there are basically two types of women: women who remain virgins until marriage, and executive ejaculatory administrators. Not a whole lot in between. Southeast Asian ejaculatory administrators are capable of being extremely sweet and charming. But, they can also be rather hard core in certain ways, and display a bit of a treacherous side, particularly if they feel even slightly provoked.

If I were planning to go to Vietnam, to marry a woman I didn't know and whose language I didn't understand, then making certain that she was still a virgin would be a reasonable precaution. For some match-making agencies, it is part of the service anyway.

Plus, I've never done a virgin before. :wink:

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02 Dec 2012, 8:37 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:

LKL wrote:

What's wrong with obedience on the part of a wife?

Are you serious?
Obedience is for dogs and children.

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And, who really wants to be pussywhipped by a fierce, shrewish wife?

Because of course, there's no middle ground, and people can't discuss things like adults.

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It looks like even Jewish wives occasionally clean the house.

Or take turns cleaning, apparently.

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02 Dec 2012, 8:55 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:

ArrantPariah wrote:

What's wrong with obedience on the part of a wife?

Are you serious?
Obedience is for dogs and children..

According to the traditional wedding vows

Book of Common Prayer wrote:

Groom: I,____, take thee,_____, to be my lawful wedded Wife, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part, according to God's holy ordinance; and thereto I plight thee my troth.

Bride: I,_____, take thee,_____, to be my lawful wedded Husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love, cherish, and to obey, till death us do part, according to God's holy ordinance; and thereto I give thee my troth.

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02 Dec 2012, 9:12 pm

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Plus, I've never done a virgin before. :wink:

It often involves blood and tears and difficulty getting it in. I'm still a bit traumatised by losing mine.

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