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01 Dec 2011, 5:48 pm

Mark my words when global warming gets really bad desperate scientists will try to generate electrical power by blowing up hydrogen bombs but by then it will be too late.



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01 Dec 2011, 6:03 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
Mark my words when global warming gets really bad desperate scientists will try to generate electrical power by blowing up hydrogen bombs but by then it will be too late.

Please note that I said fission, not fusion, power. In any case as far as I know detonating hydrogen bombs of the traditional Teller-Ulam design doesn't make for an efficient means of generating electricity.



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01 Dec 2011, 6:06 pm

If you could harness just 10 percent of the power of a hydrogen bomb you could power the world.



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01 Dec 2011, 6:13 pm

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If you could harness just 10 percent of the power of a hydrogen bomb you could power the world.



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01 Dec 2011, 7:06 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
If you could harness just 10 percent of the power of a hydrogen bomb you could power the world.

According to Wikipedia world electrical consumption for the year 2007 was 17,109,665,000 megawatt hours. This is equal to 61,594,794,000,000,000,000 joules. An average H bomb in the United States' current stockpile probably has a maximum yield of around one megaton TNT equivalent. This is equal to 4,184,000,000,000,000 joules. As you can see they aren't even within an order of magnitude of each other. The largest H bomb ever constructed, the Soviet Union's Tsar Bomba, had a yield of only 50 megatons TNT equivalent. That's 209,200,000,000,000,000 joules. Again, not even close.

Not to mention that a thermonuclear weapon essentially releases all of its energy at once. To use this to generate electricity you would need a way to capture all of this energy and release it at a controlled rate.



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01 Dec 2011, 7:20 pm

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If you could harness just 10 percent of the power of a hydrogen bomb you could power the world.


For about one hour.

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01 Dec 2011, 7:26 pm

Then you would light up 24 nukes a day.



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01 Dec 2011, 7:27 pm

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Then you would light up 24 nukes a day.


And suffer from the fallout for the next thirty years.

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01 Dec 2011, 7:28 pm

Underground explosions of hydrogen bombs could be easily contained.



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01 Dec 2011, 7:58 pm

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01 Dec 2011, 8:38 pm

Global warming is a doomsday theory that science wholeheartedly accepts.



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01 Dec 2011, 8:44 pm

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Global warming is a doomsday theory that science wholeheartedly accepts.


why doomsday? There have been extreme climate warm periods in the past. Look up Siberian Traps and Devonian Traps. During there eras the earth was plagued with a million years of super volcano eruptions that warmed up the planet a great deal.

The human race was not around then, but it happened.

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01 Dec 2011, 8:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
Global warming is a doomsday theory that science wholeheartedly accepts.


why doomsday? There have been extreme climate warm periods in the past. Look up Siberian Traps and Devonian Traps. During there eras the earth was plagued with a million years of super volcano eruptions that warmed up the planet a great deal.

The human race was not around then, but it happened.

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The difference is global warming allegedly is happening so fast that life won't be able to survive or adapt.



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01 Dec 2011, 8:52 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
Global warming is a doomsday theory that science wholeheartedly accepts.


why doomsday? There have been extreme climate warm periods in the past. Look up Siberian Traps and Devonian Traps. During there eras the earth was plagued with a million years of super volcano eruptions that warmed up the planet a great deal.

The human race was not around then, but it happened.

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The difference is global warming allegedly is happening so fast that life won't be able to survive or adapt.


Incorrect


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04 Dec 2011, 12:34 pm

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the real problem is that we have too many damned people on this planet.
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I think that is the root cause of many problems and we are very reluctant to even admit its a problem, never mind do something about it



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04 Dec 2011, 12:59 pm

I know absolutely nothing about climate change but given that there's a scientific consensus on it and that smog is known to be caused by man, I'll take their word for it.

ruveyn wrote:
donnie_darko wrote:
Global warming is a doomsday theory that science wholeheartedly accepts.


why doomsday? There have been extreme climate warm periods in the past. Look up Siberian Traps and Devonian Traps. During there eras the earth was plagued with a million years of super volcano eruptions that warmed up the planet a great deal.

The human race was not around then, but it happened.

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Yeah I'm sure 93% of scientists would overlook such a simple fact. Or maybe it occurred to them that both the natural cycle is running its course and the pollution makes its course run more roughly than it should :roll:.