Is Islamophobia any more justified than anti-Semitism?
His idea is to voluntarily repatriate non-criminal Muslims whilst deporting the rest. You might want to read a list of his quotes if you like.
How does voluntary repatriation even work? Sounds too much like the BNPs policies, but targeted specifically at Muslims.
What do you think?
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Zombies, zombies will tear us apart...again.
I think you're right.
Wilders says of Muslims:
"If Muslims want to stay here, they have to tear out half of the Quran and throw it away."
...and...
Interviewer: “What will be the first thing you will change if you would be leading The Netherlands tomorrow?"
Wilders: "The borders will be closed the very same day for all non-Western immigrants."
...and...
“Expel the Muslims who cause problems, including their whole family."
...and...
"Many fundamental problems in The Netherlands are ultimately directly connected to migrants, such as infrastructure, traffic jams, housing problems and the welfare state."
...and...
"I don't believe that cultures are equal. Our culture is much better than the ret*d islamic culture."
...and...
"I do think there should be less Muslims in The Netherlands."
...and... (this one I agree with)
"Muslims want you to give space to the islam, but the islam doesn't give you any space. The government says you should respect the islam, but the islam has no respect for you. The islam wants to dominate and aims for the destruction of our Western civilisation. In 1945 nazism was defeated in Europe. In 1989 communism was defeated in Europe. Now the islamic ideology has to be defeated. Stop the islamisation. Defend our freedom."
...and...
"No actions are taken to stop mass immigration, promote remigration and rebuke the high frequency of inactivity among non-Western immigrants. Jan and Annie [old-fashioned Dutch names] are paying for Ahmed and Fatima. The Netherlands have to choose: immigration country or welfare state."
"Taqqiya is a well-known term in the islamic world. It means that muslims who do not live in a muslim country (yet) often don't say everything they really think." "But at the moment that the islamic culture gets stronger there will also be muslims, who are now being seen as moderate, who follow along in the compulsive strictness of the Koran and its ideology. The term comes from the muslim world itself and should therefore not be underestimated.” "Therefore it is too easy to say that there are enough muslims who participate in our society. It does not say anything about how they are going to behave once there are more muslims represented in The Netherlands."
"The elite calls these Moroccans, who cause many problems, very romantically: “New Dutchmen”. I would rather call them “colonists”. Muslim colonists. Because they have not come to integrate, but to take over things, to submit us."
"Do you realise that by installing polling places in mosks, people are more or less forced to enter these buildings in order to vote, even when they don't want to have anything to do with the barbaric islamic ideology" (..) "Do you also agree that this is a completely different situation from a polling place in a church, because a church is not a symbol of an evil totalitarian ideology, but of a religion that has been a part of our Western culture for many hundreds of years and stands at the origin of our culture?"
Maybe you're right. I have no idea why it's the case. Japan learned from the west and China and India are doing it now. Maybe the west hasn't colonized or made war with the middle east enough lol (that was supposed to be a joke)
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Maybe you're right. I have no idea why it's the case. Japan learned from the west and China and India are doing it now. Maybe the west hasn't colonized or made war with the middle east enough lol (that was supposed to be a joke)
If anything, I see the situation as the Middle East's purposeful rejection of the west that grew out of anti-colonial sentiment, and the rise of fundamentalist Islam.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
It's nearly impossible to get any kind of social safety net advanced in the united states because some group always believes some other group will take advantage of it.
and they are absolutely correct in so believing. Every welfare measure is thoroughly abused and misused.
ruveyn
All human systems end up being gamed if there's an advantage to doing so, so that's not saying much.
It's incredibly easy to game the legal system, for instance.
That is already covered. If you choose YES, then you believe that both are justified.
Maybe you're right. I have no idea why it's the case. Japan learned from the west and China and India are doing it now. Maybe the west hasn't colonized or made war with the middle east enough lol (that was supposed to be a joke)
LOL! Now thats hilarious. Probably because I've had similar thoughts before.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichqauer's point is very clear. And many Westerners make this claim.
The idea is to stop the political meddling. To end America's Imperial Era. To stop alienating the Middle East.
Then maybe they will follow in our footsteps. Maybe they will have an awakening. Although it might take a few generations to have a real effect.
But in this Information era, maybe it would only take one generation, maybe less.
Thoughts?
Bismillah
Battle Mastery requires that if you are challenged by a lower power, you accept the challenge. In backgammon, newbies can win over experts sometimes (that happens to me alot). If the lower power gets enough beatin up, they are allowed to request peace. I am located in hospital now under the laws compulsory treatment (I revolted against the invasion of Iraq and Muslim countries), and I am a lower power here. The fools accepted my challenge. The wise gave me silent consent. ... If they insist of keeping up the challenge with me, they should expect that I get stronger (as Aspergers does in his later periods) and no longer remain a small power. Yet now, I am a power to count with (great endurance, great speed, great intelligence, great memory, excellent inheritance, etc and improving).
Quit already or pay the consequence. Now the US does not negotiate with terrorists, but terrorists are negotiating with them. Although Allah is very great, he has appointed a term for when he will unleash his vengace upon the disbelievers. By the words of the Nurse Night guard here: "Return to your room, that would be best".
Salam
Battle Mastery requires that if you are challenged by a lower power, you accept the challenge. In backgammon, newbies can win over experts sometimes (that happens to me alot). If the lower power gets enough beatin up, they are allowed to request peace. I am located in hospital now under the laws compulsory treatment (I revolted against the invasion of Iraq and Muslim countries), and I am a lower power here. The fools accepted my challenge. The wise gave me silent consent. ... If they insist of keeping up the challenge with me, they should expect that I get stronger (as Aspergers does in his later periods) and no longer remain a small power. Yet now, I am a power to count with (great endurance, great speed, great intelligence, great memory, excellent inheritance, etc and improving).
Quit already or pay the consequence. Now the US does not negotiate with terrorists, but terrorists are negotiating with them. Although Allah is very great, he has appointed a term for when he will unleash his vengace upon the disbelievers. By the words of the Nurse Night guard here: "Return to your room, that would be best".
Salam
So you think terrorism is acceptable? Or did I completely misunderstand?
Bismillah
My friend.
You understood correctly.
...
Using the term terrorist is good for misguidance.
We deserve that name because we apply terror as a method for achieving our goals.
But our goals are not terror.
I fight, because then later i can go my woman.
I work, because then later I can go home.
I live life, because then later i can go to heaven.
I terrorize, because then later I relax (from the pain of pacifists).
Life is war, and in war you use force/terror, there is no other way.
So the lower power (mystical power) / terrorists are accepted by us. We have our style which is devastating, and the US has their style which i havent witnessed since I have never been in military service.
Salam (peace)
My friend.
You understood correctly.
...
Using the term terrorist is good for misguidance.
We deserve that name because we apply terror as a method for achieving our goals.
But our goals are not terror.
I fight, because then later i can go my woman.
I work, because then later I can go home.
I live life, because then later i can go to heaven.
I terrorize, because then later I relax (from the pain of pacifists).
Life is war, and in war you use force/terror, there is no other way.
So the lower power (mystical power) / terrorists are accepted by us. We have our style which is devastating, and the US has their style which i havent witnessed since I have never been in military service.
Salam (peace)
Ah. You are saying that terrorism is actually just a propaganda term for freedom fighting.
But who do these freedom fighters fight? Are they fighting fighters? Or are they fighting civilians?