Is Islamophobia any more justified than anti-Semitism?

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Is Islamophobia any more justified than anti-Semitism?
No, they're both based on false/overblown fears 66%  66%  [ 23 ]
Yes, because Jews have always been peaceful, and Muslims actually DO hate us 34%  34%  [ 12 ]
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17 Dec 2011, 9:34 am

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So you think terrorism is acceptable?


If this terrorist-supporter is right, what's stopping a powerful anti-Islam country from simply bombing the hell out of Mecca?


Hahaaaaaa! Logic is king!



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17 Dec 2011, 9:38 am

Sarcasm?



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17 Dec 2011, 10:02 am

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Sarcasm?


LOL. No I was dead serious. You pointed out that if non-muslims used the same logic as lunarious, then they would just bomb the muslim countries willi nilly without any regard for loss of innocent human life.

At least I thought that is what you were saying. :)

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--I said, "Hahaaaa" because I get really excited when I see logic used successfully and when I didn't see it and it just jumps out at me. Your statement did that to me. I actually screamed "Hahaaaa" out loud. Luckily no one heard me. :)



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17 Dec 2011, 10:06 am

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LOL. No I was dead serious. You pointed out that if non-muslims used the same logic as lunarious, then they would just bomb the muslim countries willi nilly without any regard for loss of innocent human life.


I was specifically talking about the targeting of Muslim religious landmarks like Mecca and so on - i.e. destroying Mecca at Hajj time for instance, killing as many pilgrims as possible.

But either works for me.



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17 Dec 2011, 10:11 am

Can someone help me understand the dynamics here.

In history, many great leaders successfully removed oppressors through peace. Ghandi was one.

Do you think that this sort of tactic is something that Muslims could employ? And I'm not asking if they are capable of it. I'm only asking a hypothetical: If a Muslim leader, was inspired by Ghandi and others like him, and was successful in uniting the Muslims in his/her cause, do you think that the oppression would stop?

Consider this a thought experiment.



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17 Dec 2011, 10:58 am

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Can someone help me understand the dynamics here.

In history, many great leaders successfully removed oppressors through peace. Ghandi was one.



Oh Really? Have you heard of Kashmir? Also 4 million people were killed in the processes of dividing India into two countries. Ghandi was a supercalloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis. He also advised the Jews to bare their throats to the Nazis. As far as I am concerned he should cook in the same furnace as Mother Terrisa for the next billion years.

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17 Dec 2011, 11:09 am

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Can someone help me understand the dynamics here.

In history, many great leaders successfully removed oppressors through peace. Ghandi was one.



Oh Really? Have you heard of Kashmir? Also 4 million people were killed in the processes of dividing India into two countries. Ghandi was a supercalloused fragile mystic plagued with halitosis. He also advised the Jews to bare their throats to the Nazis. As far as I am concerned he should cook in the same furnace as Mother Terrisa for the next billion years.

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Well to be honest I know almost nothing about Ghandi besides a movie I watched. I probably also read a paragraph or two about him on wikipedia over the years.

Is it really that bad? Did he really do all those things? I guess there aren't any real heroes in history. Thats very sad.

very depressing..



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17 Dec 2011, 11:13 am

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Is it really that bad? Did he really do all those things? I guess there aren't any real heroes in history. Thats very sad.

very depressing..


You are a good natured person and probably young. Learn so history. The world is not a pretty place and it never has been. It is a pretty rough neighborhood in which to bring up children.

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17 Dec 2011, 11:18 am

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Is it really that bad? Did he really do all those things? I guess there aren't any real heroes in history. Thats very sad.

very depressing..


You are a good natured person and probably young. Learn so history. The world is not a pretty place and it never has been. It is a pretty rough neighborhood in which to bring up children.

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So do we give up?



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17 Dec 2011, 2:37 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Is it really that bad? Did he really do all those things? I guess there aren't any real heroes in history. Thats very sad.

very depressing..


You are a good natured person and probably young. Learn so history. The world is not a pretty place and it never has been. It is a pretty rough neighborhood in which to bring up children.

ruveyn[/quot

As far halitosis is concerned - Gandhi did drink his own urine.

And just because Gandhi was wrong, and in some instances - terribly wrong - doesn't negate the good he had accomplished.

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17 Dec 2011, 3:05 pm

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So do we give up?


Of course not. We just have to be tough.

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17 Dec 2011, 5:49 pm

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So do we give up?


Of course not. We just have to be tough.

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Ok but what should we do?



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17 Dec 2011, 5:52 pm

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You are a good natured person and probably young. Learn so history. The world is not a pretty place and it never has been. It is a pretty rough neighborhood in which to bring up children.


Some people reach adulthood and are amused to find out adults don't know as much as they thought. Other people reach adulthood and are pleased they too, now know everything.



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17 Dec 2011, 5:53 pm

Some people reach adulthood and find it terrifying, desperately wishing to be children again. Some people even join various fetish groups that will allow them to achieve that state, at least temporarily.



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17 Dec 2011, 8:52 pm

I for one am as befuddled as I had been as a kid. I just have more stuff crammed into my head.

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17 Dec 2011, 8:58 pm

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I for one am as befuddled as I had been as a kid. I just have more stuff crammed into my head.


Do you ever wish you were a child yet?