Kraichgauer
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22 Jan 2012, 2:07 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
This isn’t Europe. Just because it works there by no means is it guaranteed to work here. There are things I like about Europe, too, but I can't see them happening here. There and here are way different.
Um, yeah, a lot of them are just that. The ones that have been on the dole nearly for life regardless of the current economy and opportunity even though they are able to work are panhandling.
Being on assistance temporarily due to misfortune or for someone with a legitimate handicap is another thing entirely.
And Barack is the answer to your prayers on this? Yeah, like he cares one way or another. Well, maybe as long as you drive a green car or whatever.
Kraichgauer wrote:
Again, you said it, I didn’t.
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Most of Western Europe is doing just fine by providing healthcare to all citizens, and they have the healthy populaces to prove it.
This isn’t Europe. Just because it works there by no means is it guaranteed to work here. There are things I like about Europe, too, but I can't see them happening here. There and here are way different.
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People on public assistance are not panhandlers.
Um, yeah, a lot of them are just that. The ones that have been on the dole nearly for life regardless of the current economy and opportunity even though they are able to work are panhandling.
Being on assistance temporarily due to misfortune or for someone with a legitimate handicap is another thing entirely.
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I am referring to people working for such businesses, or are dependent on them, but see their pay and benefits - and even jobs - shrinking every year.
And Barack is the answer to your prayers on this? Yeah, like he cares one way or another. Well, maybe as long as you drive a green car or whatever.
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How is wanting to go back to what my parents had make me a terrible person?
Kraichgauer wrote:
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- oh yeah, we're really terrible!
Again, you said it, I didn’t.
THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
22 Jan 2012, 2:30 pm
22 Jan 2012, 2:35 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
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THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
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And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
Oh please!
He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.Quote:
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
22 Jan 2012, 2:41 pm
22 Jan 2012, 2:44 pm
ruveyn wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find Gingrich to be unprincipled on some important matters but I guess I'll vote for him if it's a choice of him or what we have now.
Again, the lesser of two evils..........
Again, the lesser of two evils..........
And please explain what's so evil about President Obama.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
He is the Philosophical Love-Child of Saul Alinsky and RIchard J. Daley. I sense that in his gut he does not like an individualistic and capitalistic America. Obama wants to make us Good, and they makes him dangerous and an enemy of the human race. Obama had the same psychological compulsions as Michael Dukakis of Massachusetts. Which is why we used to call him Michael the Good or the Archangel Michael.
I consider Do-Gooders among the arch enemies of mankind.
ruveyn
I am Dudley Do-Right...
22 Jan 2012, 2:46 pm
Kraichgauer
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22 Jan 2012, 3:06 pm
Kraichgauer
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22 Jan 2012, 3:11 pm
Kraichgauer
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22 Jan 2012, 3:20 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Oh please! He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
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THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
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And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
Oh please!
He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.Quote:
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that. I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
22 Jan 2012, 6:20 pm
Kraichgauer
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22 Jan 2012, 6:29 pm
22 Jan 2012, 7:25 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Oh please! He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
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THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
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And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
Oh please!
He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.Quote:
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that. I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that.
So I’m prouder.
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I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
So you want to keep our big chunk of land and import their economics, laws, and social standards?
Have your cake and eat it to, eh?
Sure sounds like it………..
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I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
The country is in the state it’s in because of two things: No one really cares enough to take a meaningful interest and not enough people can agree on what’s right and what’s wrong.
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And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
Um, that’s political posturing no matter what comes out of their mouths. And to answer your question, no, I don’t normally listen to politician’s campaign speeches. I look at their voting records, what pieces of legislation they have proposed, and their moral principles to get a picture of their competence (from a conservative viewpoint). Moral principles last because most of them simply don’t have enough of them to my liking, Republicans and Democrats alike.
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…..Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
I can’t help but notice that you and some of your liberal cohorts tend to resort to vulgarity. As an accomplished vulgarian myself I can appreciate the creativity of it but in debate it only spells sad desperation…..
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22 Jan 2012, 7:31 pm
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Oh please! He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
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THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Quote:
And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
Oh please!
He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.Quote:
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that. I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that.
So I’m prouder.
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I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
So you want to keep our big chunk of land and import their economics, laws, and social standards?
Have your cake and eat it to, eh?
Sure sounds like it………..
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I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
The country is in the state it’s in because of two things: No one really cares enough to take a meaningful interest and not enough people can agree on what’s right and what’s wrong.
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And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
Um, that’s political posturing no matter what comes out of their mouths. And to answer your question, no, I don’t normally listen to politician’s campaign speeches. I look at their voting records, what pieces of legislation they have proposed, and their moral principles to get a picture of their competence (from a conservative viewpoint). Moral principles last because most of them simply don’t have enough of them to my liking, Republicans and Democrats alike.
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…..Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
I can’t help but notice that you and some of your liberal cohorts tend to resort to vulgarity. As an accomplished vulgarian myself I can appreciate the creativity of it but in debate it only spells sad desperation…..
Prouder, eh? As you don't know me personally, I doubt that you can gauge my love of country, no more than I could gauge yours.
And I know Gingrich and Santorum and their voting records well enough to know that they mean every hateful word they spout from their holes.
And no, my vulgarities aren't driven by desperation, but just because I like to sometimes be vulgar.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
22 Jan 2012, 8:08 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Oh please! He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
Quote:
THEN CANADA, ALRIGHT?!?!
We're getting closer but Canada is still not the United States. There is disgruntlement from a considerable amount of Canadians about their system and, hey, we can’t have that now can we? Remember, no child left behind……..right?
You gave me an idea, though: You could flee this horrible country with its persecution by "plutocrats" or whatever and immigrate to freedom and assured prosperity in Canada, the land of (imaginary) milk and honey for so many of you American liberals.
Quote:
And yes, I am convinced Obama cares a lot more about ordinary people than any of the plutocrats on the Republican side do.
Oh please!
He’s a politician and like all politicians only interested in getting elected or re-elected. It’s not about "care" it’s about who can take the helm for four years and do the least damage and maybe, just maybe, do something for the overall good of the nation if they have a clue as to what that might be in reality.Quote:
In fact, give me an example of how said plutocrats have bettered the lives of ordinary people.
I don’t know, I’ve never met a politician from Pluto. I imagine they like to come here to thaw out.
I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that. I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
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I'm a proud American, so don't ever forget that.
So I’m prouder.
Quote:
I wouldn't trade the USA for all of western Europe, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, or anywhere else.
So you want to keep our big chunk of land and import their economics, laws, and social standards?
Have your cake and eat it to, eh?
Sure sounds like it………..
Quote:
I criticize only because I care about my country and it's people, and the last thing I want is to see the forces of reaction and plutocracy drag us into the third world.
The country is in the state it’s in because of two things: No one really cares enough to take a meaningful interest and not enough people can agree on what’s right and what’s wrong.
Quote:
And have you even listened to the Republican presidential candidates, or the tea baggers? There is absolutely no concern for ordinary people and the poor; only contempt. They claim anyone who even questions class disparity are only driven by envy. So, yes, in that regard, Obama definitely cares more about people like me than the Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
Um, that’s political posturing no matter what comes out of their mouths. And to answer your question, no, I don’t normally listen to politician’s campaign speeches. I look at their voting records, what pieces of legislation they have proposed, and their moral principles to get a picture of their competence (from a conservative viewpoint). Moral principles last because most of them simply don’t have enough of them to my liking, Republicans and Democrats alike.
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…..Republicans who have the rich man's scrotum in their mouths.
I can’t help but notice that you and some of your liberal cohorts tend to resort to vulgarity. As an accomplished vulgarian myself I can appreciate the creativity of it but in debate it only spells sad desperation…..
Prouder, eh? As you don't know me personally, I doubt that you can gauge my love of country, no more than I could gauge yours.
And I know Gingrich and Santorum and their voting records well enough to know that they mean every hateful word they spout from their holes.
And no, my vulgarities aren't driven by desperation, but just because I like to sometimes be vulgar.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Kraichgauer wrote:
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Prouder, eh? As you don't know me personally, I doubt that you can gauge my love of country, no more than I could gauge yours.
Well I had to say that just because it came off as a challenge, but whatever……
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And I know Gingrich and Santorum and their voting records well enough to know that they mean every hateful word they spout from their holes.
Here’s an idea
: Don’t vote for them! Quote:
And no, my vulgarities aren't driven by desperation, but just because I like to sometimes be vulgar.
Uh huh………….sure.
Anyhow, who’s next month’s boogeyman going to be for you all?
You had Michelle, Sarah, Herman, and Ron, to name a few, to wring your hands over now Mitt and Newt.
We could have Barack for 20 years and I’d lose less sleep (if any) over it than the mere thought of one of the above does to your kind.
What’s it like to be a prisoner of your fears?
22 Jan 2012, 8:36 pm
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