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04 Apr 2012, 11:35 am

i have been called a b***h too. and there have been multi-page debates about the words "skank" and "whore" and "slut" because many members do think that those are appropriate words for a promiscuous female.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:35 am

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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?

So, women can petition to get equal pay. What's wrong with that?

they are petitioning. it's called feminism.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:36 am

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i have been called a b***h too. and there have been multi-page debates about the words "skank" and "whore" and "slut" because many members do think that those are appropriate words for a promiscuous female.



Ok well I was saying I have not seen that in this thread, and I did not get the impression these are words that are thrown around wrong planet a whole lot......sorry I wasn't aware.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:37 am

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i have been called a b***h too. and there have been multi-page debates about the words "skank" and "whore" and "slut" because many members do think that those are appropriate words for a promiscuous female.



Ok well I was saying I have not seen that in this thread, and I did not get the impression these are words that are thrown around wrong planet a whole lot......sorry I wasn't aware.

you're right that they haven't been spoken in this thread.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:38 am

hyperlexian wrote:
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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?

So, women can petition to get equal pay. What's wrong with that?

they are petitioning. it's called feminism.

But isn't their issue based on the fact that they don't automatically get equal pay? Isn't that wrong?


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04 Apr 2012, 11:38 am

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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?

So, women can petition to get equal pay. What's wrong with that?

they are petitioning. it's called feminism.

But isn't their issue based on the fact that they don't automatically get equal pay? Isn't that wrong?

i didn't know you agreed with that. interesting that you want equal rights for men in areas like paternity but not for women in areas like equal pay.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:40 am

hyperlexian wrote:
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i have been called a b***h too. and there have been multi-page debates about the words "skank" and "whore" and "slut" because many members do think that those are appropriate words for a promiscuous female.



Ok well I was saying I have not seen that in this thread, and I did not get the impression these are words that are thrown around wrong planet a whole lot......sorry I wasn't aware.

you're right that they haven't been spoken in this thread.


But people have been ridiculed in this thread for not agreeing with feminism, hence the comment 'bolded for hilarity' as a response to one of my comments with stuff I said put in bold. So not that such things would justify terms like b***h and slut being thrown around, but that sort of thing might contribute to negative feelings towards feminism in general.

just an observation.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:41 am

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i have been called a b***h too. and there have been multi-page debates about the words "skank" and "whore" and "slut" because many members do think that those are appropriate words for a promiscuous female.



Ok well I was saying I have not seen that in this thread, and I did not get the impression these are words that are thrown around wrong planet a whole lot......sorry I wasn't aware.

you're right that they haven't been spoken in this thread.


But people have been ridiculed in this thread for not agreeing with feminism, hence the comment 'bolded for hilarity' as a response to one of my comments with stuff I said put in bold. So not that such things would justify terms like b***h and slut being thrown around, but that sort of thing might contribute to negative feelings towards feminism in general.

just an observation.

both sides have been ridiculed (and warnings were given for people on each side).


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04 Apr 2012, 11:42 am

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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?




The way american family law courts work is that in cases where the mother gets custody by (legal)default, if the father petitions the court he has to prove to the judge that him gaining joint custody is in the interests of the child's welfare. Furthermore, if wishes to have custody transferred to him, he must prove that the mother is unfit to care for the children. My sister is attorney and that's where I'm getting this information from. Many judges in the US still believe strongly that Dad = breadwinner and Mom = caregiver.



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04 Apr 2012, 11:43 am

hyperlexian wrote:
myth wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
myth wrote:
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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?

So, women can petition to get equal pay. What's wrong with that?

they are petitioning. it's called feminism.

But isn't their issue based on the fact that they don't automatically get equal pay? Isn't that wrong?

i didn't know you agreed with that. interesting that you want equal rights for men in areas like paternity but not for women in areas like equal pay.

Who said I didn't want them or that I agreed with the issue in question? My question was in regards to your (or feminism's) beliefs.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:44 am

AspieRogue wrote:
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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?




The way american family law courts work is that in cases where the mother gets custody by (legal)default, if the father petitions the court he has to prove to the judge that him gaining joint custody is in the interests of the child's welfare. Furthermore, if wishes to have custody transferred to him, he must prove that the mother is unfit to care for the children. My sister is attorney and that's where I'm getting this information from. Many judges in the US still believe strongly that Dad = breadwinner and Mom = caregiver.

but this is only in cases where they are not together when the child is born. if the father isn't around for the pregnancy but wants to share custody, he can have that right. i think it would be better if it were automatically given as shared custody, as that would definitely be more fair.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:45 am

myth wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
myth wrote:
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right... so he can petition and get shared custody. what's the problem with that?

So, women can petition to get equal pay. What's wrong with that?

they are petitioning. it's called feminism.

But isn't their issue based on the fact that they don't automatically get equal pay? Isn't that wrong?

i didn't know you agreed with that. interesting that you want equal rights for men in areas like paternity but not for women in areas like equal pay.

Who said I didn't want them or that I agreed with the issue in question? My question was in regards to your (or feminism's) beliefs.

well, what do you think? should women automatically get equal pay? and should men automatically get shared custody?


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04 Apr 2012, 11:48 am

No. It should be based on the qualities of the individual in question.


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04 Apr 2012, 11:52 am

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No. It should be based on the qualities of the individual in question.

i guess you are not a masculinist then?


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04 Apr 2012, 11:57 am

No, I'm not. I used the term "masculinist" yesterday in an attempt to make a point about how the word is gendered and no one would take me seriously if I claimed to be a masculinist and claimed I was advocating equality.

Secondly, I do believe that in some situations men can be discrminated against or treated unfairly as well. In those cases, I would be a masculinist. I would only advocate that side as an opposition to feminism with the intention of "checks and balances".


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04 Apr 2012, 11:58 am

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No, I'm not. I used the term "masculinist" yesterday in an attempt to make a point about how the word is gendered and no one would take me seriously if I claimed to be a masculinist and claimed I was advocating equality.

Secondly, I do believe that in some situations men can be discrminated against or treated unfairly as well. In those cases, I would be a masculinist. I would only advocate that side as an opposition to feminism with the intention of "checks and balances".

so you think that men should be advocated for and not women?


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