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04 May 2012, 3:02 pm

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I didn't become a sexual being until much later.


I can't speak to your personal experience, of course. But in general, I subscribe to the view that by the time a human being is born, all the essentials are in place.

We are, of course, born with all of the physiological equipment to be sexual beings. And I'm not just talking about the basic plumbing--I'm also talking about the anatomical structures in the brain that direct our sexuality and our sexual behaviour. It's not necessarily switched on, but it's all there.

Many infants display sexualized behaviour (with some boys the death grip that he will have on his penis makes one wonder that it will survive 'til puberty...) and while it may not have a sexual focus, there is still plenty of social play among children that demonstrates nascent sexuality.


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04 May 2012, 3:06 pm

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Yes I know but we are all born sexual beings but with out a sexual preferrence at birth.


I didn't become a sexual being until much later.


Well-lets say that we are born genetically programed to become sexual at puberty or whenever- some years later than actual birth.
Like catepillars who born to eventually become butterflies.

But @joker - how do you KNOW sexual orientation isnt genetically set at birth?

The scientific community has no consensus against that theory.


True but the key word is theory many scientists can disproove a theory. And because I don't see it logical to believe that are you saying the DNA works like a computer proggram installing a sexiual orienataion at birth?



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04 May 2012, 3:47 pm

DNA actually does work pretty much like a computer program. Life is a form of digital information transfer at its core, to paraphrase Richard Dawkins. But the epigenome adds countless IF-THEN statements to this program. IF certain environment conditions are met THEN enable genes A and B that code for particular traits.

In practice, this means that parents pass on a gene to their children that causes homosexuality in case of certain epigenomic processes, but also has the great advantage of causing increased fertility in women (which explains how such a gene can be selected for). When a certain environmental trigger occurs, perhaps certain hormone levels in the prenatal period, this gene is switched on and codes for a neuroendocrinological development that leads to homosexual orientation in later life.



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04 May 2012, 3:55 pm

visagrunt wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
I didn't become a sexual being until much later.


I can't speak to your personal experience, of course. But in general, I subscribe to the view that by the time a human being is born, all the essentials are in place.

We are, of course, born with all of the physiological equipment to be sexual beings. And I'm not just talking about the basic plumbing--I'm also talking about the anatomical structures in the brain that direct our sexuality and our sexual behaviour. It's not necessarily switched on, but it's all there.

Many infants display sexualized behaviour (with some boys the death grip that he will have on his penis makes one wonder that it will survive 'til puberty...) and while it may not have a sexual focus, there is still plenty of social play among children that demonstrates nascent sexuality.


Gender identity is also an example of early sexual development. Transgender people are usually certain of their sexual gender identity at a very young age, long before puberty.



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13 Jun 2012, 7:04 pm

[img][800:774]http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/us_terror_state/washington_times.gif[/img]



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13 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

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[img][800:774]http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/us_terror_state/washington_times.gif[/img]


Whats with your obsession with Ronald Reagan?



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13 Jun 2012, 7:38 pm

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[img][800:774]http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/us_terror_state/washington_times.gif[/img]

Was it really necessary to resurrect this thread over that?



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13 Jun 2012, 7:42 pm

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[img][800:774]http://thewe.cc/thewei/_/us_terror_state/washington_times.gif[/img]

Was it really necessary to resurrect this thread over that?


True very true



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13 Jun 2012, 8:28 pm

Well, as long as I don't violate any rules....



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15 Jun 2012, 12:49 pm

I give you: the Top Five Gay Republican Sex Scandals

http://badmouth.net/top-five-republican ... -scandals/



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15 Jun 2012, 12:59 pm

...and, the most recent...

http://blog.outtakeonline.com/2012/06/f ... -utah.html

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A not so funny thing happened to gay Republican Presidential candidate Fred Karger this week while campaigning in Utah. First he had what he thought was a great meeting with the Washington County GOP Chairman Willie Billings. Then a few hours later he received this nasty anti gay email from his wife Nanette Billings, “you are an idiot. You met with my husband Willie Billings today about you being on the Utah ballot. He brought your frisby, and tshirt home & it is now out in the trash. I never want to hear from such a radical idiot again. you think you are conseritave? conseritave means you beleive in the values of founding fathers and God. Do you know you cant procreate right? Well thank goodness for that.” First of all in our No No to Nanette who should learn about spell-check. So then she added more insult to injury when Yahoo contacted her to confirm she sent the email she added, "My feeling is the only reason he's running for president is to find more [sexual] partners. To get more people on his bandwagon." Karger reacted by stating “It felt like a knife had been twisted in my stomach. Was it real? Was she serious? Two journalists called Mrs. Billings & what she said about me to them was even nastier.” We interviewed Fred for OUTTAKE VOICES™ in March. Karger has worked on 9 presidential campaigns & served as a senior consultant on campaigns for Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush & Gerald Ford. He retired after 27 years & has since then became an activist for gay rights, including his organization Californians Against Hate (now Rights Equal Rights) to investigate the LDS Church & the National Organization for Marriage in their campaigns against marriage equality in California & Maine. Mrs. Billings should have listened to our audio interview with Karger before she went on her homophobic rampage.


Mrs. Billings is obviously projecting her own homosexual feelings onto Mr. Karger, so that she can supress these feelings by bashing him.

Another closeted Gay, outed from the Republican community.



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16 Jun 2012, 2:54 pm

Here is a Baptist preacher who is most assuredly gay

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n7vSPwhSU[/youtube]



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18 Jun 2012, 11:56 pm

yah, they think everything is a liberal, hollywood conspiracy to turn them gay, when in reality they're just aroused by anything remotely homo-erotic cause...they're repressed homosexuals. They sure obsess about the topic a lot more than the average person, As for Romney, I wouldn't be surprised if some incident surfaces like what happened with Tedmotherland Haggard. I'm sure several people would end up turning up dasies to prevent his expose though, since he's such a powerful figure. I think most politicians have done some gay s**t though, especially the Republicans.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc[/youtube]

They're known for making neo-conservative leaders there at Bohemian Grove and hatching plans like the Manhattan project. Nixon even admitted it was a big queer fest. For all I know, he probably blew Rockefeller to get the presidency.

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There's really no possible context that would not make this weird

http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_chi ... anklin.htm

Here's an article on a child sex ring that was found to have ties to the daddy Bush and Reagan white houses. They only act normal to get your vote. They're not really gay either but rather hardcore creeposexuals with some serious skeletons in the closet. I'm sure some of these scumbags are hiding body parts under their cabin in the woods. Lets not forget that John Wayne Gacy was a former Democratic politician that just got caught. I'm sure there's more like him that haven't and are doing quite successful. Politicians are evil, soul sucking f***s, and I hate all of them. They're the bane of our existence and the incarnation of all that's bad in our species. We should all promptly make a decision to stop paying taxes to these evil, deranged baby killing psychopaths. If they don't give a f**k about subduing and killing brown people halfway around the world, they don't give a f**k about you, and, in the end, you'll get the same treatment. Your life to them is ultimately just as expendable as the ones overseas that they sacrifice to line the pockets of their corporate masters.

They're like that sick sadist in the family that gets u, at a young age, to humiliate yourself for their pleasure and manipulates u and other family members to not say anything about it. Were taught that these types are only on the fringes and that they get weeded out by the legal system. However, they run our society. I think that's the darkest truth of all. So, no, Romney probably isn't gay (gay isn't bad or evil). He's something outright grotesque but fools us with his fake, family friendly facade like all power brokers have done in history. The same person who mind f***s you into as convoluted a line of logic as "you need to indiscriminately bomb these people over here to secure peace" seems an awful lot like thee person who says "now don't tell your mommy what we just did or else you'll get in trouble".

"Don't expose what an evil scum f**k I am, or else you're unpatriotic and hate your country!"
...and of course your fellow countryman who buy into this line of logic are like the family member who's in denial and tells you "now stop making up such awful lies or I'm going to punish you!".



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19 Jun 2012, 9:40 am

I'll bet that Gov. Jeb Bush has already alerted the Tampa Vice Squad to tone down enforcement during this summer's Republican National Convention.

Tampa's gay bars and nightclubs are going to be hopping that week.



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23 Jun 2012, 9:25 pm

I do find the idea that homophobes being secretly homosexual to be highly feasible. It could be an attempt to repress their homoerotic or bi-curious thoughts.



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26 Jun 2012, 10:41 pm

Something seems a bit wrong here.