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So, who is right?
Paul Ryan is right 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Rev. Thomas Reese is right 67%  67%  [ 4 ]
Just show the results 33%  33%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 6

ArrantPariah
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02 May 2012, 10:16 am

Paul Ryan was recently taken to task by Catholics at Georgetown University for grossly misusing Catholic teaching

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JRL ... TFHA/edit#

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Dear Rep. Paul Ryan,

Welcome to Georgetown University. We appreciate your willingness to talk about how Catholic social teaching can help inform effective policy in dealing with the urgent challenges facing our country. As members of an academic community at a Catholic university, we see your visit on April 26 for the Whittington Lecture as an opportunity to discuss Catholic social teaching and its role in public policy.

However, we would be remiss in our duty to you and our students if we did not challenge your continuing misuse of Catholic teaching to defend a budget plan that decimates food programs for struggling families, radically weakens protections for the elderly and sick, and gives more tax breaks to the wealthiest few. As the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has wisely noted in several letters to Congress – “a just framework for future budgets cannot rely on disproportionate cuts in essential services to poor persons.” Catholic bishops recently wrote that “the House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria.”

In short, your budget appears to reflect the values of your favorite philosopher, Ayn Rand, rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Her call to selfishness and her antagonism toward religion are antithetical to the Gospel values of compassion and love.

Cuts to anti-hunger programs have devastating consequences. Last year, one in six Americans lived below the official poverty level and over 46 million Americans – almost half of them children – used food stamps for basic nutrition. We also know how cuts in Pell Grants will make it difficult for low-income students to pursue their educations at colleges across the nation, including Georgetown. At a time when charities are strained to the breaking point and local governments have a hard time paying for essential services, the federal government must not walk away from the most vulnerable.

While you often appeal to Catholic teaching on “subsidiarity” as a rationale for gutting government programs, you are profoundly misreading Church teaching. Subsidiarity is not a free pass to dismantle government programs and abandon the poor to their own devices. This often misused Catholic principle cuts both ways. It calls for solutions to be enacted as close to the level of local communities as possible. But it also demands that higher levels of government provide help -- “subsidium”-- when communities and local governments face problems beyond their means to address such as economic crises, high unemployment, endemic poverty and hunger. According to Pope Benedict XVI: "Subsidiarity must remain closely linked to the principle of solidarity and vice versa.”

Along with this letter, we have included a copy of the Vatican's Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church, commissioned by John Paul II, to help deepen your understanding of Catholic social teaching.


http://www.pbs.org/wnet/religionandethi ... get/10872/

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... irect=true

So, what do you make of this?



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02 May 2012, 10:26 am

Paul Ryan has confused the Pope with Ayn Rand.

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02 May 2012, 10:47 am

Kudos to Mr. Reese and the other signees. I wish both Rep. Paul Ryan and the Vatican would practice what Mr. Reese preaches, because he makes a lot of sense.



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02 May 2012, 12:47 pm

ruveyn wrote:
Paul Ryan has confused the Pope with Ayn Rand.

ruveyn


Indeed he has.



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02 May 2012, 12:57 pm

religious politicians are religious right up until it conflicts with whatever cliched political stance they find expedient in the moment.



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02 May 2012, 12:59 pm

blauSamstag wrote:
religious politicians are religious right up until it conflicts with whatever cliched political stance they find expedient in the moment.


Which is funny cause I like it when my faith doesn't have a role in politics period.



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02 May 2012, 4:40 pm

Well? Why haven't our Right Wing Nut Jobs yet weighed in to denounce Rev. Reese as a Marxist-Lennonist Commie Extremist?

We heard the same sort of invective leveled against Miguel d'Escoto Brockmann and Ernesto Cardenal (two Catholic priests who participated in the Nicaraguan government following the overthrow of Somoza).



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02 May 2012, 5:15 pm

Oh, how I have longed to see the day when the church finally calls out members of the right and their reluctance to directly aid the poor.



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02 May 2012, 5:32 pm

The problem with the religious right is that only their preachers are allowed to speak at church.



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02 May 2012, 5:34 pm

androbot2084 wrote:
The problem with the religious right is that only their preachers are allowed to speak at church.


Also not true at my church we have Youth sunday that means the youth at my church do everything they take up offering light the candels make up the whole entire church choir and preach the sermon.



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03 May 2012, 9:36 am

The biggest problem with the religious right is they can't even imagine that they might be wrong.



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03 May 2012, 9:40 am

ruveyn wrote:
Paul Ryan has confused the Pope with Ayn Rand.

ruveyn


ROFLMAO



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03 May 2012, 1:32 pm

Oldout wrote:
The biggest problem with the religious right is they can't even imagine that they might be wrong.


Amen.

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03 May 2012, 10:38 pm

The US has a constitutionally mandated separation of religion and state. What the heck is a politician doing using a religious rationale for policy decisions?

Or is that thing that was called a constitution just a scam?



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03 May 2012, 10:42 pm

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Oh, how I have longed to see the day when the church finally calls out members of the right and their reluctance to directly aid the poor.


Indeed. The bible is chock full of passages saying the rich should ALWAYS help the poor. Any christian who claims to actually follow the bible would be practically forced to be Liberal.


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03 May 2012, 10:59 pm

abacacus wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Oh, how I have longed to see the day when the church finally calls out members of the right and their reluctance to directly aid the poor.


Indeed. The bible is chock full of passages saying the rich should ALWAYS help the poor. Any christian who claims to actually follow the bible would be practically forced to be Liberal.


That's always has been the reason why I'm a liberal.

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