Atheists Who Deconverted- Earliest Source of Doubt?

Page 1 of 2 [ 32 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,074
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

24 May 2012, 6:21 pm

The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


_________________
"Reality is not made of if. Reality is made of is."
-Author prefers to be anonymous.


snapcap
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,328

25 May 2012, 1:14 am

Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


When I became an Atheist, it was because I was pissed off at the world when I was a teenager.


_________________
*some atheist walks outside and picks up stick*

some atheist to stick: "You're like me!"


Xenu
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Dec 2008
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,438

25 May 2012, 2:09 am

When I found out that people don't choose to be gay... At that point I start just doing my own research and realized that the bible couldn't possibly be true was so full of s**t it isn't even funny... Although now while I guess I'm still an atheist I'm trying to force myself to be an agnostic right now with my depression to hope that maybe I'm not so alone... But i know for a fact Christianity is BS...



TallyMan
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 40,061

25 May 2012, 3:07 am

When I encountered evolution as a kid in science classes and that as a consequence the stuff I was being taught in religious education classes about our descent from Adam and Eve was merely mythology but being presented as fact. It opened the floodgates of doubts. More scientific enquiry further relegated the Bible to the realms of mythology and legend.


_________________
I've left WP indefinitely.


Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,074
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

25 May 2012, 4:11 am

snapcap wrote:
Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


When I became an Atheist, it was because I was pissed off at the world when I was a teenager.


Some people think of Atheists as being "mad at God." You can't be mad at an entity that you recognize that doesn't exist. The recognition of the unfortunate nature of many things in the world can certainly make one open to the possibility that reality is not designed by an all powerful, omniscient, benevolent creator.


_________________
"Reality is not made of if. Reality is made of is."
-Author prefers to be anonymous.


Last edited by Rocky on 25 May 2012, 4:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

snapcap
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2011
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,328

25 May 2012, 4:18 am

Rocky wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


When I became an Atheist, it was because I was pissed off at the world when I was a teenager.


Some people think of Atheists as being "mad at God." You can't be mad at an entity that you recognize that doesn't exist. The recognition of the unfortunate nature of many things in the world can certainly make one open to the possibility that reality is not designed by an all powerful omniscient, benevolent creator.


I wasn't mad at God, I never blamed God for my problems, but I did get very angry at people that believed in God.


_________________
*some atheist walks outside and picks up stick*

some atheist to stick: "You're like me!"


Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,074
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

25 May 2012, 4:22 am

Xenu wrote:
When I found out that people don't choose to be gay... At that point I start just doing my own research and realized that the bible couldn't possibly be true was so full of sh** it isn't even funny... Although now while I guess I'm still an atheist I'm trying to force myself to be an agnostic right now with my depression to hope that maybe I'm not so alone... But i know for a fact Christianity is BS...


Recognizing the fact that we don't live in "the best of all possible worlds," can be depressing. I prefer to appreciate the fact that, despite the odds to the contrary, I was fortunate enough to be born to enable me enjoy that which is good about reality. The fact that it was not designed makes the good things easier to appreciate. Reality could have been a lot worse. For one thing, I am very glad I wasn't born in an earlier age, before science could explain reality without resorting to any god. Also, before the wwweb, finding anyone with a compatible viewpoint would have been very unlikely.


_________________
"Reality is not made of if. Reality is made of is."
-Author prefers to be anonymous.


Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,074
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

25 May 2012, 4:31 am

snapcap wrote:
Rocky wrote:
snapcap wrote:
Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


When I became an Atheist, it was because I was pissed off at the world when I was a teenager.


Some people think of Atheists as being "mad at God." You can't be mad at an entity that you recognize that doesn't exist. The recognition of the unfortunate nature of many things in the world can certainly make one open to the possibility that reality is not designed by an all powerful omniscient, benevolent creator.


I wasn't mad at God, I never blamed God for my problems, but I did get very angry at people that believed in God.


They can be frustrating. I try to remember when I thought that way. Also, overcoming indoctrination from a very young age can be difficult to overcome. Not everyone has had the opportunity to learn enough science and logic to recognize that a god is not needed to explain reality. (Before anyone replies, I recognize that there are some knowledgeable people who believe in a god despite a good education.)


_________________
"Reality is not made of if. Reality is made of is."
-Author prefers to be anonymous.


ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 87
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

25 May 2012, 4:52 am

Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


Nonsense! Everything is for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds.

ruveyn



TallyMan
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 40,061

25 May 2012, 6:02 am

ruveyn wrote:
Rocky wrote:
The earliest I can remember was reading "Candide" by Voltaire. I was in High School. "Candide" made me start thinking about the problem of a less than perfect world. If god created everything... Hmmm.


Nonsense! Everything is for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds.

ruveyn


:lol: Ruveyn aka Pangloss. :P


_________________
I've left WP indefinitely.


abacacus
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,380

25 May 2012, 12:16 pm

What the bible said versus what preachers tried to tell me it said. I read through the bible for the first time when I was only ten or eleven years old, and I had a lot of questions. I went to the priest of my church, and asked them. His answers simply didn't line up in my mind, and so I began to research things on my own. A few years later, I decided that even if the biblical god was real that christianity was a bunch of bull and I wanted nothing to do with it.


_________________
A shot gun blast into the face of deceit
You'll gain your just reward.
We'll not rest until the purge is complete
You will reap what you've sown.


Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age: 67
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,074
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

25 May 2012, 1:43 pm

abacacus wrote:
What the bible said versus what preachers tried to tell me it said. I read through the bible for the first time when I was only ten or eleven years old, and I had a lot of questions. I went to the priest of my church, and asked them. His answers simply didn't line up in my mind, and so I began to research things on my own. A few years later, I decided that even if the biblical god was real that christianity was a bunch of bull and I wanted nothing to do with it.


I have read the Bible all the way through. I would guess that most Believers never have. I have heard atheists who say that is what deconverted them. Not surprising to me. There are things in there that are not taught in Sunday school. No wonder that the Catholic church didn't want the Bible translated to English, and previously only performed the services in Latin.


_________________
"Reality is not made of if. Reality is made of is."
-Author prefers to be anonymous.


heavenlyabyss
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Sep 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,393

29 May 2012, 2:58 am

Wasn't raised religious. I read a few pages of a Bible once in a hotel room and was sickened by it.

If I wasn't so bored I would have more important things to complain about, like most atheists.



TallyMan
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 40,061

29 May 2012, 3:07 am

Rocky wrote:
I have read the Bible all the way through. I would guess that most Believers never have. I have heard atheists who say that is what deconverted them. Not surprising to me. There are things in there that are not taught in Sunday school. No wonder that the Catholic church didn't want the Bible translated to English, and previously only performed the services in Latin.


I also read the Bible all the way through in my younger days and was similarly dismayed at the hatred and violence therein. The God of the Bible seemed like a megalomaniac psychopath to me.


_________________
I've left WP indefinitely.


Rainy
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 174

29 May 2012, 3:18 am

Modern Christians hardly follow their holy book, even if they defend it and the atrocities their god commits in it. Their religion can be summed up as "Good people go to heaven, bad people go to hell, and Jesus is awesome." And many Christians don't even believe in hell.

The ones who actually do follow their holy book more closely are considered mildly insane.



WilliamWDelaney
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,201

29 May 2012, 10:54 am

Frankly, I liked the idea of religious asceticism and meditative prayer, and the idea is still something of a turn-on for me. However, when I realized that most religious people who talk big about it are really the most materialistic and mercenary jerks on the planet, the glamour of it fell away pretty quickly. Hypocrisy is really what did religion in for me.