King of Bain: When Mitt Romney Came to Town

Page 1 of 2 [ 19 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

ArrantPariah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Age: 120
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,972

19 Jul 2012, 9:10 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLWnB9FGmWE[/youtube]

http://news.yahoo.com/bain-film-produce ... 17148.html

This documentary was actually produced by the Repugs themselves.



simon_says
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,075

19 Jul 2012, 9:42 am

He's a leveraged buy out artist. It's astonishing to me that a guy with that resume can get this far only four years after the financial crisis and while financial scandals are still popping off. Running on a deregulation and tax cutting platform? lol. Oh well.



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

19 Jul 2012, 9:50 am

Well, since the Obamanator has proven NOT to be the great savior.....


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


ArrantPariah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Age: 120
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,972

19 Jul 2012, 11:10 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVywk7rZoc&feature=relmfu[/youtube]



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 87
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

19 Jul 2012, 11:14 am

Has Bain financial done anything illegal?

Leveraged buy-outs are perfectly legal and are an efficient way of recycling assets from dysfunctional enterprises to companies that can succeed.

ruveyn



ArrantPariah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Age: 120
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,972

19 Jul 2012, 11:15 am

Raptor wrote:
Well, since the Obamanator has proven NOT to be the great savior.....


....we'll just have to go and elect Satan Incarnate!

Image



simon_says
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,075

19 Jul 2012, 11:26 am

ruveyn wrote:
Has Bain financial done anything illegal?

Leveraged buy-outs are perfectly legal and are an efficient way of recycling assets from dysfunctional enterprises to companies that can succeed.

ruveyn


If "have you done anything illegal?" were the sole standard for office then things would be otherwise. But politics is a different game. As conservative George Will said about Romney's taxes and business dealings, "he's done nothing illegal but a lot that's impolitic. And he's in the politics business now".

That aside, I just think it's funny that anyone would think deregulation and massive permanent tax cuts are a good idea right now. When deficits continue or get worse, they'll be very confused.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age: 87
Gender: Male
Posts: 31,502
Location: New Jersey

19 Jul 2012, 12:00 pm

simon_says wrote:
[

That aside, I just think it's funny that anyone would think deregulation and massive permanent tax cuts are a good idea right now. When deficits continue or get worse, they'll be very confused.


The sure fire cure of deficits is to cut government spending to the bone. I would cut way back on so-called defense. The U.S. commitment to the "for ever war" is going to bankrupt the nation.

ruveyn



marshall
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,752
Location: Turkey

19 Jul 2012, 1:16 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
This documentary was actually produced by the Repugs themselves.


I find it hilarious that the guy who helped make this film is supporting Romney now. Just shows that Repugs are experts in producing manipulative propaganda but have no actual principles. He never gave a crap about the people who were fired. The film was produced early on in an attempt shoot down a Republican primary candidate that it's producers thought had too much baggage to beat Obama. All the other candidates turned out to be even less viable, and now what do you know? He's saying his attack helped "toughen up" Romney. :lol: The average American peasants are all pawns in the eyes of these douchebag politicians and corporate PAC's. I wonder if all the people appearing in this film are happy to know that no one actually gives a s**t about them and they are simply being used. If people actually realized what's really going on the guillotines would come out.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,181
Location: Montreal

19 Jul 2012, 1:20 pm

ruveyn wrote:
simon_says wrote:
[

That aside, I just think it's funny that anyone would think deregulation and massive permanent tax cuts are a good idea right now. When deficits continue or get worse, they'll be very confused.


The sure fire cure of deficits is to cut government spending to the bone. I would cut way back on so-called defense. The U.S. commitment to the "for ever war" is going to bankrupt the nation.

ruveyn


I think cutting spending to the Forever War exclusively would be more than enough, the rest of government spending is gravy compared to the elephant in the room.


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


ArrantPariah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Age: 120
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,972

19 Jul 2012, 3:02 pm

That documentary is a brilliant propaganda piece. For one thing, it features a large number of lower-class, uneducated White proletarians--exactly the kind of people who listen to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh (and proudly consider themselves "informed"), and who typically show up for Teabag Rallies. These are precisely the sort of people who automatically vote Republican no matter what.

On top of that, you have a Vietnam War veteran who lost his job No-one running for president would ever want to be perceived as having done the least bit of harm to a Vietnam War veteran. Especially when the candidate evaded military service himself during those years.

And, on top of that: a woman whom Mitt Romney fired when she was 8-months pregnant. You might just as well come out and say that Mitt Romney is a baby-killer. :lol:



marshall
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 Apr 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 10,752
Location: Turkey

19 Jul 2012, 3:57 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
That documentary is a brilliant propaganda piece. For one thing, it features a large number of lower-class, uneducated White proletarians--exactly the kind of people who listen to Fox News and Rush Limbaugh (and proudly consider themselves "informed"), and who typically show up for Teabag Rallies. These are precisely the sort of people who automatically vote Republican no matter what.

On top of that, you have a Vietnam War veteran who lost his job No-one running for president would ever want to be perceived as having done the least bit of harm to a Vietnam War veteran. Especially when the candidate evaded military service himself during those years.

And, on top of that: a woman whom Mitt Romney fired when she was 8-months pregnant. You might just as well come out and say that Mitt Romney is a baby-killer. :lol:


The fact that this guy made this brutal yet completely insincere attack piece painting Romney as nothing short of Satan incarnate, only to turn around and support him after it's clear that the GOP has failed to come up with a better candidate to beat Obama, shows that the corporate funded right are true masters of cold sociopathic emotional manipulation.

It's so ironic that the charge of using your voting base as pawns to get elected gets levied at Democrats so often. There's constant insinuations from the right wing media that all progressive politicians despise working class Americans and cynically promise "handouts" in return for votes. It's a very clever line of attack as working class middle-Americans take a lot of pride in their work ethic and supposed self-sufficiency, so the idea of a politician cynically promising "government handouts" in return for votes is seen as deeply condescending to respectable working class middle-Americans. It seems like the corporate funded right-wing media came up with this brilliant debasement scheme out of projection, as it appears they actually do despise working class people. Why else would this person use real people's suffering in a calculated political ploy to try and eliminate a candidate he felt had too much baggage to defeat Obama?



simon_says
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,075

19 Jul 2012, 5:02 pm

The war costs arent enough. I think they are just over $100 billion a year now. Even junking the entire defense budget you couldnt end the deficit at this point. The current deficit is 1.2 trillion.



ArrantPariah
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Mar 2012
Age: 120
Gender: Male
Posts: 7,972

20 Jul 2012, 11:07 am

So, we'll be counting upon President Romney to gut everything that the government does, sell off resources, and make himself richer than Mubarak by the time that his term expires.



Raptor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 8 Mar 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,997
Location: Southeast U.S.A.

20 Jul 2012, 11:32 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
So, we'll be counting upon President Romney to gut everything that the government does, sell off resources, and make himself richer than Mubarak by the time that his term expires.


Or give Obama another 4 to spend us deeper into the hole......


_________________
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson


simon_says
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Jan 2011
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,075

20 Jul 2012, 12:21 pm

Spending hasnt gone up much under Obama, it's a revenue loss from the downturn. Compounded by the expense of unfunded wars, tax cuts, etc. We arent even paying payroll taxes at the moment. The same revenue loss is hitting all of the states. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/05/busin ... harts.html)

Romney's plan to cut 6-7 trillion in taxes and boost defense spending by "up to" 2 trillion isnt going to do anything good for the deficit. His platform is Bush's third term.