What do you think about the death penalty

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AspieRogue

19 Oct 2012, 6:11 pm

GGPViper wrote:

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LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion. But I see prison raep as a form of torture/extrajudicial punishment that makes prisoners lives a living hell. I honestly think that rapists and killers should be tortured rather than killed. But the constitution prohibits any form of state sanctioned torture by virtue of the "cruel and unusual punishment" clause.

As far as deterrence goes, I honestly think that extrajudicial killings by the Police are a far more effective deterrent than capital punishment will ever be. But that carries with it a much greater risk of innocent people being killed than the death penalty does.

If that is your view, then why don't you move to a country which doesn't care about all of this "civilized" silliness? Like, Sudan, Saudi Arabia or North Korea?

Because there is not freakin WAY that I will get into Saudi Arabia or North Korea!(NK is far too poor anyway as is Sudan).

However, I will tell you that showing mercy to the merciless is not what I call civilized.

Ok, you *seriously* got me there. I expected some sort of reply like: "How DARE you compare me to those monstrous countries.." ... etc.

Oh, by the way, you are aware that you just claimed that it would be uncivilized to show mercy to you, right?

Not so fast! Showing mercy to a merciless person who is guilty of violent crime committed in a merciless fashion is not what I consider to be civilized. I hope you see my point.

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19 Oct 2012, 6:28 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

Not so fast! Showing mercy to a merciless person who is guilty of violent crime committed in a merciless fashion is not what I consider to be civilized. I hope you see my point.

I stopped seeing your point when you actually *advocated* rape as a punishment.

Face it. You are not a good person.

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19 Oct 2012, 6:36 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

If that is your view, then why don't you move to a country which doesn't care about all of this "civilized" silliness? Like, Sudan, Saudi Arabia or North Korea?

Not so fast! Showing mercy to a merciless person who is guilty of violent crime committed in a merciless fashion is not what I consider to be civilized. I hope you see my point.

thing is legality is one of the least consistent and least common subjects in the world, every country has differences, tp use it in any kind of ethical argument is beyond ridicoulous without further clarification.
so in some countries that would mean people of another country who are following the law while executing would not deserve mercy.

when looking at dictatorships and regimes then that is excactly what you see as justification for wars, feuds conflict in general.

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20 Oct 2012, 3:41 am

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

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20 Oct 2012, 10:50 am

no penalty can be imposed upon people who have died for having died.

AspieRogue

20 Oct 2012, 12:02 pm

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

G-d damnit LKL, the subject of this thread is crime and punishment. I have said before that I regard it as a punishment for violent crime and that it has nothing to do with my sexual interests. Nice strawman.

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21 Oct 2012, 12:53 am

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

It's appearing in other threads, too.

AspieRogue

21 Oct 2012, 2:09 am

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

It's appearing in other threads, too.

I do mention it when it comes to crime & punishment but beyond that, no longer. Quit lying to my virtual face. You're very bad at it and I notice you do it quite often to peeps ITF.

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21 Oct 2012, 11:45 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

It's appearing in other threads, too.

I do mention it when it comes to crime & punishment but beyond that, no longer. Quit lying to my virtual face. You're very bad at it and I notice you do it quite often to peeps ITF.

I can, however, back up my statements with evidence:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf147261-0-270.html
I will grant that ArrantPariah was far, far worse than you in that thread; however, I'm sick of having to read about people's sexual fantasies on PPR. It should stay in the adult issues forum.

Now, can you back up your slander with evidence? Where have I lied about anyone?

AspieRogue

22 Oct 2012, 2:13 am

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

LKL: My sexual fetishes are irrelevant to this discussion.

I agree, and because of that I'd appreciate or if you'd quit talking about it (on other PPR threads, too).

It's appearing in other threads, too.

I do mention it when it comes to crime & punishment but beyond that, no longer. Quit lying to my virtual face. You're very bad at it and I notice you do it quite often to peeps ITF.

Let's just drop the subject. Mmk?

I realize that my opinion about this is very offensive and revolting, but do not try to psychoanalyze me.

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22 Oct 2012, 2:28 am

not everyone who has sex with the same sex in prison is necessarily a homosexual...

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AspieRogue

22 Oct 2012, 2:46 am

MarketAndChurch wrote:

not everyone who has sex with the same sex in prison is necessarily a homosexual...

Quite true.

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22 Oct 2012, 4:54 am

i really have no idea of how to respond in a serious fashion, however, i think that people on death row should be allowed to live if they volunteer for medical trials. there are many drugs that take 20 or more years to test on humans due to the fact that rats and pigs and monkeys etc must be used as test subjects before the drugs are trialled on humans.

if the drug being trialled on them produces horrific side effects, then they can be relieved of their misery by being put to sleep. at least they would have obviated further trials on a drug that would have claimed the attention of many people for many years.

AspieRogue

23 Oct 2012, 3:23 pm

GGPViper wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

Not so fast! Showing mercy to a merciless person who is guilty of violent crime committed in a merciless fashion is not what I consider to be civilized. I hope you see my point.

I stopped seeing your point when you actually *advocated* rape as a punishment.

Face it. You are not a good person.

Never said I was. But lemme tell ya kid, I ain't dumb nor am I a bullsh*t artist like you.

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23 Oct 2012, 3:24 pm

AspieRogue wrote:

GGPViper wrote:

AspieRogue wrote:

Not so fast! Showing mercy to a merciless person who is guilty of violent crime committed in a merciless fashion is not what I consider to be civilized. I hope you see my point.

I stopped seeing your point when you actually *advocated* rape as a punishment.

Face it. You are not a good person.

Never said I was. But lemme tell ya kid, I ain't dumb nor am I a bullsh*t artist like you.

Please elaborate.

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24 Oct 2012, 8:29 am

It seems like most people favor the death penalty, or even if they're against it, it's only because they want the criminal to suffer more etc. Do you think most people really feel this way? Or are the vengeful just more outspoken in their beliefs?

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