Ultranationalist Golden Dawn MPs violently attack vendors
13 Sep 2012, 7:32 pm
Alexei wrote:
Native Europeans need to be more racist if they are going to resist their own race-replacement, because race-replacement is what the mass immigration of millions of blacks, browns and yellows into Europe represents. It is a racial issue, and Europe needs more parties like Golden Dawn.
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level, and b)is a bad thing.
It doesn't matter what color the people of Europe are, now or later; what matters is that the culture of openness, social safety nets, modernism, and secularism is maintained.
16 Sep 2012, 4:40 pm
Tensu wrote:
LKL wrote:
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level
Yeah, I mean the only way europeans could truly be "replaced" is if they didn't mate with anyone. Otherwise it's not replacement, it's hybridization.
It does make sense. Hybridization would be part of the replacement process. If at some point in the future there are no ethnic Greeks in Greece, then it would make sense to say the ethnic Greeks have been replaced in Greece.
LKL wrote:
Alexei wrote:
Native Europeans need to be more racist if they are going to resist their own race-replacement, because race-replacement is what the mass immigration of millions of blacks, browns and yellows into Europe represents. It is a racial issue, and Europe needs more parties like Golden Dawn.
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level, and b)is a bad thing.
It doesn't matter what color the people of Europe are, now or later; what matters is that the culture of openness, social safety nets, modernism, and secularism is maintained.
No, that is just your opinion of what matters. Other people might think that prosperity or aristocratic values or Christianity are what matters.
Other people might value things like openness and prosperity, but then ask themselves: what is the point of these things? Are they ends in themselves? Is it not the case that I value these things because they make my society a better place to live for the people who live here? Isn't it the people who live here the - or rather, isn't it life itself - that is fundamental rather than the ideas (like openness and prosperity) that impact upon them? Wouldn't an individual who values openness and prosperity in his society be expected to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live so as to benefit from these things? And if so, if an ethnic group or race want the country they inhabit to be open and prosperous in the future, might it not also be legitimate for that group to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live on in that country rather than being replaced by other races and hybrids?
People coming to such a conclusion would only be honouring nature itself, and there is no way you can prove that any of the values you hold dear are more important than that.
16 Sep 2012, 4:46 pm
tournesol wrote:
Tensu wrote:
LKL wrote:
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level
Yeah, I mean the only way europeans could truly be "replaced" is if they didn't mate with anyone. Otherwise it's not replacement, it's hybridization.
It does make sense. Hybridization would be part of the replacement process. If at some point in the future there are no ethnic Greeks in Greece, then it would make sense to say the ethnic Greeks have been replaced in Greece.
LKL wrote:
Alexei wrote:
Native Europeans need to be more racist if they are going to resist their own race-replacement, because race-replacement is what the mass immigration of millions of blacks, browns and yellows into Europe represents. It is a racial issue, and Europe needs more parties like Golden Dawn.
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level, and b)is a bad thing.
It doesn't matter what color the people of Europe are, now or later; what matters is that the culture of openness, social safety nets, modernism, and secularism is maintained.
No, that is just your opinion of what matters. Other people might think that prosperity or aristocratic values or Christianity are what matters.
Other people might value things like openness and prosperity, but then ask themselves: what is the point of these things? Are they ends in themselves? Is it not the case that I value these things because they make my society a better place to live for the people who live here? Isn't it the people who live here the - or rather, isn't it life itself - that is fundamental rather than the ideas (like openness and prosperity) that impact upon them? Wouldn't an individual who values openness and prosperity in his society be expected to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live so as to benefit from these things? And if so, if an ethnic group or race want the country they inhabit to be open and prosperous in the future, might it not also be legitimate for that group to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live on in that country rather than being replaced by other races and hybrids?
People coming to such a conclusion would only be honouring nature itself, and there is no way you can prove that any of the values you hold dear are more important than that.
LKL is right. Color really doesn't matter! You should both come to the interracial marriage thread and comment on a racist link someone posted about the survival of the social construct known as the "Jarawa people": http://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/jarawa#main
End racism now!
16 Sep 2012, 5:48 pm
tournesol wrote:
Tensu wrote:
LKL wrote:
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level
Yeah, I mean the only way europeans could truly be "replaced" is if they didn't mate with anyone. Otherwise it's not replacement, it's hybridization.
It does make sense. Hybridization would be part of the replacement process. If at some point in the future there are no ethnic Greeks in Greece, then it would make sense to say the ethnic Greeks have been replaced in Greece.
So you want not only all of the 'white' alleles to survive (regardless of whether they are actually beneficial), you want the current average assortment of 'white' alleles to survive with no mixing or independent assortment.
That is essentially advocating that humans go down the road of pure-bred dogs, with the same problems propagated generation after generation.
LKL wrote:
Alexei wrote:
Native Europeans need to be more racist if they are going to resist their own race-replacement, because race-replacement is what the mass immigration of millions of blacks, browns and yellows into Europe represents. It is a racial issue, and Europe needs more parties like Golden Dawn.
You say 'race-replacement' like it a)makes any kind of sense on a biological level, and b)is a bad thing.
It doesn't matter what color the people of Europe are, now or later; what matters is that the culture of openness, social safety nets, modernism, and secularism is maintained.
No, that is just your opinion of what matters. Other people might think that prosperity or aristocratic values or Christianity are what matters.
Other people might value things like openness and prosperity, but then ask themselves: what is the point of these things? Are they ends in themselves? Is it not the case that I value these things because they make my society a better place to live for the people who live here? Isn't it the people who live here the - or rather, isn't it life itself - that is fundamental rather than the ideas (like openness and prosperity) that impact upon them? Wouldn't an individual who values openness and prosperity in his society be expected to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live so as to benefit from these things? And if so, if an ethnic group or race want the country they inhabit to be open and prosperous in the future, might it not also be legitimate for that group to place an even greater value on actually continuing to live on in that country rather than being replaced by other races and hybrids?
People coming to such a conclusion would only be honouring nature itself, and there is no way you can prove that any of the values you hold dear are more important than that.[/quote]
fine, add in prosperity and Christianity if you want - it still doesn't stand that brown people can't do it just as well as white people.
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