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29 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm
29 Sep 2012, 7:02 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
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29 Sep 2012, 7:12 pm
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
29 Sep 2012, 7:13 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Honestly I would not expect 90% of the US to know that, right or left
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29 Sep 2012, 7:49 pm
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Honestly I would not expect 90% of the US to know that, right or left
Sadly enough, that's probably true.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
29 Sep 2012, 8:31 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
That's not entirely true Kraichgauer, that Down Syndrome girl that nearly ended up on a path to being executed is a good example that debunks what you are saying.
If we want to talk about whom treats whom the best, the Jewish people generally have a better track record in the past few centuries than either Christians or Muslims.
The Israelis building walls, blockading, etc. Palestinians has nothing to do with religious intolerance, it has to do with the fact they are sick of suicide bombers. A lot of Israelis probably know people whom lost family members to suicide attacks.
The Jewish religion does not center on spreading Judaism all over the world, nor does it involve conquering the world; it focuses on the state of Israel.
Christianity does talk about spreading Christianity; Islam talks about the same. This leads to clashes instigated by one group of fanatics or the other; right now the situation is Muslim Fanatics are causing the problems. Several hundred years ago it was Christian fanatics.
29 Sep 2012, 8:59 pm
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
That's not entirely true Kraichgauer, that Down Syndrome girl that nearly ended up on a path to being executed is a good example that debunks what you are saying.
If we want to talk about whom treats whom the best, the Jewish people generally have a better track record in the past few centuries than either Christians or Muslims.
The Israelis building walls, blockading, etc. Palestinians has nothing to do with religious intolerance, it has to do with the fact they are sick of suicide bombers. A lot of Israelis probably know people whom lost family members to suicide attacks.
The Jewish religion does not center on spreading Judaism all over the world, nor does it involve conquering the world; it focuses on the state of Israel.
Christianity does talk about spreading Christianity; Islam talks about the same. This leads to clashes instigated by one group of fanatics or the other; right now the situation is Muslim Fanatics are causing the problems. Several hundred years ago it was Christian fanatics.
Isn't that Bill's point? The Muslims are always the bad guys?
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Kraichgauer
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30 Sep 2012, 12:26 am
Inuyasha wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
The last time I checked, the Ottomans were Turkish, actually. And the largely Arab populace they ruled over very much resented them. Of course, I don't expect Gohmert to be able to tell the difference between a Turk and an Arab.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Interestingly enough Jews were treated much better under the Caliphs than under the kings and queens of Western, Central and Eastern Europe. Go figure
Of course, you won't hear any of that from the religious right and Islamaphobes in this country. For them, the Muslims are always the bad guys.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
That's not entirely true Kraichgauer, that Down Syndrome girl that nearly ended up on a path to being executed is a good example that debunks what you are saying.
If we want to talk about whom treats whom the best, the Jewish people generally have a better track record in the past few centuries than either Christians or Muslims.
The Israelis building walls, blockading, etc. Palestinians has nothing to do with religious intolerance, it has to do with the fact they are sick of suicide bombers. A lot of Israelis probably know people whom lost family members to suicide attacks.
The Jewish religion does not center on spreading Judaism all over the world, nor does it involve conquering the world; it focuses on the state of Israel.
Christianity does talk about spreading Christianity; Islam talks about the same. This leads to clashes instigated by one group of fanatics or the other; right now the situation is Muslim Fanatics are causing the problems. Several hundred years ago it was Christian fanatics.
I actually wasn't talking about modern Islamic society. Rather, if you look at the context of my remark, you'll find I was talking about the days when Jews had it better among Muslims than among Christians. That is, back in the Middle Ages, when Islamic lands were the focal point of civilization, while our ancestors wallowed in ignorance and religious fanaticism, and actually bathed a lot less often than did their Pre-Christian Barbarian ancestors.
I'm quite aware that modern Islamic society in Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia bears little resemblance to the high culture of their ancestors.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
