Gun Confiscation = Civil War?

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Paranoia.

Its when the democratic process is eroded that you need to worry and do something about it.

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Last edited by NorthPark on 19 Dec 2012, 1:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It doesnt matter if we have a pseudo election if the electorate is always the same. Its like if the election was putin, or putin. With dark horse contestant putin. See where Im going? As it currently is the fed government is far beyond what the founding fathers ever wanted it to be. It should have been overthrown in the 1950s.

She used to, in spite of wanting to confiscate every last gun from everyone else. She gave up the permit and gun, and now has armed guards like so many other liberal politicians and wealthy contributors.

Theres nothing pseudo about it at all. Democracy in a country with freedoms represents the will of the majority of the people.
Gotta better idea?

Yes, but when the democracy is run by a select group that get to pick who they want you have a shadow government. And with voters so in the blind its not hard to see how its gotten this way.

No, as they'll just "grandfather" them and ban the future sales of such (if they do).

Killing all the birds in one shot.

There's truth to this. People on the left will call you crazy and say that Obama isn't a dictator etc etc and he isn't and shouldn't be compared to these guys...but there is a mindset that'll lead to some sort of totaliterianism(sp?)...most people on the left feel like they are doing the right thing, and want to do the right thing, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

So yes, Obama and the left don't have to be Hitler or Pol Pot to enact things that help to consolidate power with the federal goverment and get people hooked...whether it's handouts or protection....they want to run the show, and a lot of people in this country will let them....

Hopefully you are not referring to the Illuminatti or some other type of conspiracy theory.

The shadow government is as plain as day, the 1% has pretty much enslaved the 99% and gun control is just a tool to further control the poor and working classes.

Unfortunately, I've hearing rumors (or rumours) that the new AWB law will not have a grandfather cause, if you are referring to that. Or any gun control measure for matter. Also, Obama may try to sign the UN small arms treaty by executive Order. I really hope the President can't pull this off.

Only two things will stop it. The Courts or a Congress willing to impeach and convict.

ruveyn

So you think they become dictators by legal weapon use? O_o Hmmm...maybe they had been so much for gun control, because they were the person who knew best, that free weaponry allows crazy as*hole people to gather other crazy armed marauders around them, to dominate others by violence and weaponry?

No, they more used their "reasonable gun control" measures to round up legal gun owners from their previous regimes, people that'd resist. But if you're a violent marauder, you're not going to care about gun laws at all. Mexico has very strict gun laws, some of their guns are coming from America, but not their hand grenades, 40mm high explosive grenades, full auto AKs and M16s, etc. If you're going to be a paramilitary organization, you've outgrown buying guns at the gun shop.

On to RPGs! Also shoulder launched anti aircraft missiles. The Afghans started to beat the Russians after Charlie Wilson was able to get stinger missiles and other high powered military class weapons to them.

ruveyn

Have you told historic about your knowledge, so they can change the books of history?

So according to you, the voted german government gave the non leading members of the NSDAP weapons, so that Hitler and the NSDAP can ursurpate in bavaria against the voted government. If thats what happened, so why had Hitler been arrested and sentenced to jail for trying to conquer Germany by violence if everything was reasonable?

And you think that there had been laws, allowing the members of the NSDAP and their marauders the SA to intimidate members of other political groups and kill them, so they couldnt go to the elections and senate, so that the NSDAP had no voices against them in elections of the senate accroding new laws and so on. Sure...so they did not have the most people in senate, but because of mysterious ways they could do what they wanted, because members of the other fractions decided to have a party instead going to parlament, because the NSDAP asked them so friendly with flowers in their hands.

And yes, all the academic that decided to leave their home where they had been born, many of them from one second to the other without selling their goods, BEFORE the NSDAP took over the government by violence, just thought it would be so much fun being a refugee in a foreing country, having no money. And all the jews and communists and socialist that died or were intimated by violence BEFORE the NSDAP took over, they all had heart attacks. So yes, you could think that it would seem a bit strange, that many people who decides to have heart attacks in uncommon ages, were against the NSDAP and so... but no, Hitler never would have used anything but reasonable gun control.

And yes, the elected austrian president decided to go into exile, because he wanted to go on vacation and was rid of his job. No, no, it was not because Hitler decided to "connect Austria to the "motherland" Germany"" and because experiences in germany already had shown, that Hitler and his NSDAP politics and SA marauders have no problems with killing everyone in their way, ignoring every law of "reasonable gun control". So you think there have been existing laws in Austria, allowing foreign presidents of foreign countries to intimidate the elected president of austria by "reasonable gun control" in their own country? Sure and next we will create laws for "reasonable raping" of austrian school kids for tourists.

But yes i agree, all that dictators and madmen were absolute for weapon control. Like i said noone but them knew better, that lousy weapon controls allow random idiots to take over existing governments as they had themselfs.

Wanna go on? You think Mao did his "long march" to show chinese people, how important it is to stay healthy? Or because he was an armed rebell against the existing government that was chased?

And Stalin...yes sure...russian history needs to be rewritten. No, the Zar (King of Russia) and his family were not killed by communistic armed rebels taking over the country by anything but "reasonable gun control". So no...they have been executed by "reasonable gun controls". Sure, if i was a king of an country, first thing i would invent are laws that allow other people to kill me by "reasonable gun control". So sure, all the communist leader gathered them at the red place in moscow and told their people to stop the revolution because it would be against the existing laws of gun control, so they all went home again, because they had so much love for gun control, they couldnt stand to brake the existing laws.

And the great part the russian navy played in the revolution: So no it was not, because they were armed and trained and communist leaders persuaded them to use their weapons against the russian king. Why should they do that, when this would have been against the existing laws, which they loved so much according to you. No it was because they could sing so nice sailor songs, to motivate the communists.

Yo yes: Hitler and Mao and Stalin and so on, they were all peacefully flower loving pacifists who never thought to conquer their countries abd get leader by illegal weapon use,

Sold by our countries with the help of lousy weapon trading laws, which we accept as community because our economies are profiting from it. Really lovely....producing weapons, creating lousy laws for the trade of that weapons, creating terror and death in other countries... And the same political groups and people responsible for the murder, tell us to buy their weapons, because we need to protect us of the other people that they already sold weapons. Yes sure, you dont need to buy AKs and M16 not in a gun shop. Our weapon traders have worked hard so every criminal can buy his weapons with comfort, so they can treaten others, so the companies can tell these people, that they also have to buy weapons to protect themselfs from the other customers.