Hate crime statistics deflate "Islamophobia" myth

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Its got nothing to do with autism. You're a sectarian bigoted piece of crud. Its as simple as that.

Like I said I have developed a fear of them from a young age. Recent events such as 9-11 didn't help matters.

That's why I read and read more about them (isn't education supposed to make you wiser?).

But there was no good news at the end. No redeemable quality at all in what I read about their religion.

As for the other non-Muslim middle eastern/ South Asians that I have bucketed in. I don't see any collateral damage done. It's not like I'm a billionaire and my custom is required, nor any loss of having no south Asian / middle eastern friends that are non Muslim.

Does someone with fear of snakes or spiders first enquire if it is dangerous/poisonous?

Lol I guess I'll be your neighbour soon as county atrim is one of the places I'm looking at moving to.

I think you are like the Chardonnay socialists. Talking about the poor while earning 500,000.

I'm guessing your in one of those 99.9% white parts of Northern Ireland? Talking about the rights of minorities without seeing their effects on the rest of the community.

Muslims weren't collectively behind 9-11 anymore than all Jews and Christians were behind the mandate of Palestine and subsequent adventures by the USA and UK into muslim countries which provoked it in the first place.

Please don't plead the "It was induced from young age canard" either. I grew up in predominately loyalist area of West Belfast in Northern Ireland, yet I was able to overcome my programming to hate Roman Catholics and the IRA. Ironically my autism probably played a part in my ability to do that.

The Hitler youth developed their fear and hatred of jews from a young age, prompted, according to Hitler, by the treaty of Versailles. Is that any more excusable?


Were you not aware that the Islamic world was significantly more advanced in the fields of Science and medicine right up until the crusades, when most of the research was probably destroyed by plundering thugs from pre renaissance Europe?


That bears absolutely no comparison at all.

You did the comparison (Roman Empire vs Christianity and Western civilisation vs Islam) not me, I only pointed out that roles coincide only as far relations of power do. Was Christians' insistence to not provide sacrifice to the pagan Gods a threat to the Roman culture? I don't see it as one (you could say that excepting Christianity, it was a pagan culture of generally surprising religious tolerance).



Not sure why I said 'everybody'. Anyway, militant atheists would be another such group. Also whoever suffers personally from minority rapes and crime and whatnot (my own view is that poverty and continual disrespect leads to such behaviour aside from other factors, such as the elders not being around to repudiate these actions).



Well, do they dispute it really? I think they're one side that doesn't mind a whole lot. With a well-paid job, a family to maintain and the convenience of God, it seems they may be even less likely to argue about whose side the authenticity of belief resides in than socially adequate Christians would want to do the same with, say, WBC. Only their position as a minority would serve as an incentive to.

I'd rather you didn't. We have enough knuckledraggers coming out of the woodwork at the moment with the 'fleg' riots.

Nah. Don't throw around ungrounded assumptions. Try dividing that figure by 50 and you're closer to the mark.

Not only did I spend 6 years in England I had a girlfriend from a muslim background. I'm probably in a better place to talk about islam than half the armchair pundits on this forum.

I'm not going to participate in the riots. I avoid large gatherings for any reason.

I just won't have to see them everywhere I go, stopping my panic attacks, lowering my stress levels.

Getting involved in those disputes would be the last thing on my mind.

On a serious note, why is it so bad in your current location you would want to live in Northern Ireland?

If I had a choice of living anywhere else in Western Europe I wouldnt come here.

It is nice to see so many 'flegs' up. That said, I don't agree with their protests (they're not going to achieve anything, and they're making themselves look undignified by doing this). It's not a major worry as regards the constitutional settlement is in order - in fact, it doesn't affect it at all. The effect of Belfast City Council's ruling is that it wants to bring City Hall in line with the rest of the UK with regard to flag-flying. I don't have any problem with that.



And that's precisely the problem with Islam and the Arab mentality. They've produced nothing of real innovation in the last, what, 300 years or more? They've become stymied and ossified. Their religion has prevented them from making progress because Islam itself fears the struggle, the indecision of progress (fitna). It sees the 7th century Arab mentality as the ideal life. Much of the modern technology one might see in places like Saudi Arabia is imported from the West (sometimes from Israel). The Saudis and others are living off Western technology and are only rich because of what they dig out of the ground (which they use to poison young, perhaps gullible Muslims in the West with their Wahhabist textbooks and extremist mosques). If they didn't have the oil, they'd have nothing and they'd all be starving.

Time to look for a permanent replacement for oil and urgently, I think.

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It's an awesome place. It's peaceful and has lots of lovely scenery. The Republic's only down the road. Friendly people, lovely humour.

I'd rather live in, say, County Down than in South London, or the banlieues of Paris, or Marseille, or Malmö or...

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Sydney Australia. (Ironic. Half of GB wants to move here) I have a UK ancestory visa which gives me indefinite leave to remain.

I had endless problems thoughout school with Lebanese Muslims. Wiki or google it, they are a massive problem here.

That is fair enough, but why Northern Ireland?

I would seriously advise against moving here, unless you are loaded. Otherwise you'll end up on the dole or best case scenario, an awful dead end job.

Theres no decent work opportunities here. All of the economic activity gravitates towards the South East of England, especially London. Ignore this at your peril.

I am sorry about your experience with Lebanese muslims but I can assure you you can't tar an entire group because of the actions of a few bad apples. I don't say that all Australians are alcoholic, shrimp barbecuing criminals because it would be extremely xenophobic of me.

He's lived in Blackpool before. I think he's setting his standards fairly low, TBH.

I agree with you for once. Even Blackpool is a s**thole frankly, but i'd rather live there than Northern Ireland.

Work is fine. I am a specialist in my field in an area of finance systems in some obscure software packages.

I can support most of my customers remotely, the rest I can schedule a visit every few months and go to a few in one go. (Initially once every 3 months for a month, and gradually once every 6 or 12 months).

Looking at Portrush in NI (thanks to tequila). Other towns would be Skegness, Bridlington and Whitby. I want to live in a small town but find most of them very boring. At least a seaside resort lets me indulge in my hobby of amusement arcades and games.

Many people from Northern Ireland do just that. (The proprietor of the clothing shop I go in is originally from Millisle).