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28 Apr 2013, 7:14 pm

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Perhaps because the world is full of people who'd want to see you castrated and killed simply for admitting such an attraction? Possibly involving a volcano?

It's not only that, but even admitting such an attraction to medical professionals could have extremely negative consequences.

It's much the same as people admitting they're obsessed with torturing someone (no, not like extreme S&M) and find it so hot, or someone admitting that they seriously love the idea of kidnapping and murdering someone. It would be very risky to get safe, sane, anonymous help I would imagine.

I wouldn't know how you'd go fixing a problem like that. And I wager that most of the people with these, er, 'desires' don't know either. Which hides the problem and leaves it underground, lurking, until someone eventually strikes.

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28 Apr 2013, 7:19 pm

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Castration for violent rapists and child molesters.

Not good enough. Your violent rapists often aren't interested in using their penis to hurt someone. They use objects, or even weapons against genitals.

The best way is the throw-away-the-key approach for people who are that dangerous and unreformable.

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28 Apr 2013, 7:20 pm

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It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Anything can be argued, but the research suggests otherwise in this case.

Really? Because when I was a kid, and I had acquired a stack of Playboy and Penthouse magazines, pretty soon, I was wanting actual women. As sexual attraction is sexual attraction, I have to imagine the same would be for pedophiles.

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28 Apr 2013, 7:23 pm

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I have to imagine the same would be for pedophiles.

You can't stop it unless children are made completely and totally invisible from everyone until the age of 18.

Paedophiles are said to love children's television or fashion magazines if they can't get off using illegal pornography.

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28 Apr 2013, 7:34 pm

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Are you suggesting that you would not have developed a sexual attraction to women absent access to pornography? Cause I kinda don't think that's how human sexuality works...

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28 Apr 2013, 7:51 pm

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Are you suggesting that you would not have developed a sexual attraction to women absent access to pornography? Cause I kinda don't think that's how human sexuality works...

No, no. My point was, photographs of women weren't enough for me after a time, and I had wanted the real thing. I'm saying it would only be a matter of time till pedophiles want more than just a computerized image of a child.

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28 Apr 2013, 8:07 pm

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You still seem to be saying that pornography was some sort of gateway drug to wanting actual sex for you, which, again, isn't how things work. Are you trying to argue that absent child pornography, pedophiles won't desire to have sex with children? Cause, as I've said since the beginning, research says otherwise.

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28 Apr 2013, 8:21 pm

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I'm saying pedophiles won't stay satisfied with just kiddie porn.

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28 Apr 2013, 8:33 pm

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I'm saying pedophiles won't stay satisfied with just kiddie porn.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Are you an expert on pedophiles? Here is a study that suggests that kiddie porn might actually keep them from offending:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 111326.htm

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The findings support the theory that potential sexual offenders use child pornography as a substitute for sex crimes against children. While the authors do not approve of the use of real children in the production or distribution of child pornography, they say that artificially produced materials might serve a purpose.

So, you support a policy that makes children more likely to be molested why again?

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28 Apr 2013, 8:51 pm

No, I'm not an expert on pedophiles.
As for the materials themselves; are they still produced through the victimization of children?
And rather than creating pornographic materials to sate pedophiles, wouldn't society - and the pedophiles themselves - be better served by providing them with therapy in order to thwart their sexual interest in children?

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28 Apr 2013, 8:55 pm

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... better to provide them with therapy in order to thwart their sexual interest in children?

Definately.

About 300 joules with a defibrillator across their scrotums whenever they see an image of a child or hear a child's voice ought to do it.

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28 Apr 2013, 8:57 pm

Maybe a chip in their brain that zaps the nerves in the penis when they get aroused.
A new type of electro-shock therapy.

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28 Apr 2013, 8:59 pm

Oh,and I forgot,Baptists should have their head held underwater for a REALLY long time.
Let's see Jesus help them hold their breath. :twisted:

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28 Apr 2013, 9:06 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Did you really forget what started this conversation already?

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It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So, again, if computer generated child porn can help keep pedophiles from attacking real children, what is your problem with it?

As to society helping pedophiles, would you want to advertise your status as such in a society full of Fnords?

Thank you, by the way, Fnord, for making the world less safe for children, it's a real service you're doing there.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:15 pm

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Did you really forget what started this conversation already?

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It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Pedophiles shouldn't have to advertise their predilections publicly in order to get therapy if they seek it.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:16 pm

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Oh,and I forgot,Baptists should have their head held underwater for a REALLY long time.
Let's see Jesus help them hold their breath. :twisted:

I'm all for that! :lol:

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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