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28 Apr 2013, 9:21 pm

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Pedophiles shouldn't have to advertise their predilections publicly in order to get therapy if they seek it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Would you even take the risk given the consequences of it being reported to someone?

Also, just going to ignore my question?

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28 Apr 2013, 9:27 pm

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Pedophiles shouldn't have to advertise their predilections publicly in order to get therapy if they seek it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Would you even take the risk given the consequences of it being reported to someone?

Also, just going to ignore my question?

If I discovered I had that sort of perversion I would definitely do anything to be cured.
Including volcanoes if I couldnt be fixed.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:30 pm

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About 300 joules with a defibrillator across their scrotums whenever they see an image of a child or hear a child's voice ought to do it.

How would the body know if they were getting sexually excited to children or adults? A person could never read a newspaper, or watch a television programme, or really function if that were the case, because every time, they'd be risking pain.

If they're that much of a danger to society, they shouldn't be out of the tin.

I don't think that keeling over in agony whilst they're in Walmart or when they're walking in town at 3:30pm just because a child has walked past them is really at all helpful to anyone is it.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:31 pm

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If I discovered I had that sort of perversion I would definitely do anything to be cured.

You could well end up being beaten up, your house attacked, friends and family being menaced, people simply disowning you and being a target for any psychotic thug who needs an excuse to hurt someone.

It wouldn't be safe.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:34 pm

Dox47 wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Pedophiles shouldn't have to advertise their predilections publicly in order to get therapy if they seek it.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Would you even take the risk given the consequences of it being reported to someone?

Also, just going to ignore my question?

There are in fact therapies offered to, and used by, pedophiles in order to change their lives where they retain their anonymity.
And no, I'm not ignoring your question - but the fact remains, I have to imagine that most child pornography is produced using real children, and not computer imagery (see my argument for why at the bottom of my post).
And in anticipation of your next question - no, I am not at all acquainted with with kiddie porn. I'm guessing that the monsters that make the filth that destroys the souls of their child victims do not do it just for the money, but also because of their own deviant interest in children. Thus, the underground sale of kiddie porn using real children will probably always be more prevalent than computer images.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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28 Apr 2013, 9:37 pm

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And no, I'm not ignoring your question - but the fact remains, I have to imagine that most child pornography is produced using real children, and not compute imagery.

Have you heard of hentai and cartoon porn? That's very popular, and there's a lot of it about. (So I'm told.)

It's probable that child porn is a genre as wide as any adult pornography. If I were to wager a guess, I'd suspect that some of it's real, but increasingly so now that a lot of it isn't. If anything with teenagers, I suspect that a lot of flirty stuff is actually being produced by the teenagers themselves for their own or someone else's amusement in their age group. Teenagers have been prosecuted for making their own child porn of themselves and no-one else when they did some saucy shots.

See what I mean? It's murky.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:41 pm

I'd like to see a pedophile keel over in agony in Mal Wart,it would make for a pleasant shopping experience,and I might even go there more often.Especially if they were in the toy section or the little kid underwear isle.In fact,I'll pay to see it.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:42 pm

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But you wouldn't know that they were a paedophile. They would just be another person. You would probably be wondering about an ambulance. I would be - I'd wonder what the hell's the matter.

It would possibly traumatise the children above all.

Not a clever idea.

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28 Apr 2013, 9:46 pm

Tequila wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

And no, I'm not ignoring your question - but the fact remains, I have to imagine that most child pornography is produced using real children, and not compute imagery.

I would be suspicious of not only the buyers of cartoons involving children in sexual situations, but also of those that make them.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

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28 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

Let's put a big red and glow in the dark Tatoo on their forehead,a giant P.
Then we'd all know,and we should be allowed to pelt them with cheap Mal Wart items.

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28 Apr 2013, 10:14 pm

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29 Apr 2013, 12:06 am

Tequila wrote:

Keni wrote:

If I discovered I had that sort of perversion I would definitely do anything to be cured.

I would have to try somehow.
I would feel like the people with larvae in the Alien movies. Kill me or get it out.

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29 Apr 2013, 4:52 am

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Kraichgauer wrote:

No, I'm not an expert on pedophiles.
As for the materials themselves; are they still produced through the victimization of children?
And rather than creating pornographic materials to sate pedophiles, wouldn't society - and the pedophiles themselves - be better served by providing them with therapy in order to thwart their sexual interest in children?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

Did you really forget what started this conversation already?

Kraichgauer wrote:

It can be argued that even with a computer generated image of a child as a sexual object, the pedophile would eventually want to experience the real thing.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

So, again, if computer generated child porn can help keep pedophiles from attacking real children, what is your problem with it?

As to society helping pedophiles, would you want to advertise your status as such in a society full of Fnords?

Thank you, by the way, Fnord, for making the world less safe for children, it's a real service you're doing there.

For the record if it was full of AspieOtakus wed just toss stuff thats either a detriment to society or undesireable, like garbage, murderers, child molestors, racists, and rapists into volcanoes!!

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29 Apr 2013, 4:58 am

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29 Apr 2013, 11:48 am

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No, no. My point was, photographs of women weren't enough for me after a time, and I had wanted the real thing. I'm saying it would only be a matter of time till pedophiles want more than just a computerized image of a child.

Pedophile means someone who likes kids sexually; it's not the same thing as a child molester, who uses children to satisfy his pedophilia. In the same way, you being a straight man means you want women sexually, it doesn't mean that if you can't get laid you're going to go out and rape someone.

There was a very old thread on WP that had a pedophile asking people on WP for advice; he made it clear that he didn't want to hurt actual kids, but that he really couldn't help the attraction. I think such people need compassion and help, not only for their own sake, but because it would probably reduce the risk to kids as well.

The sorts of childish vengeance fantasies in this thread about tazering their balls and the like are not useful, and are getting mad at the wrong thing. It's getting mad at the attraction, which doesn't harm anyone and can't be helped, not at the actual abuse of children, which does harm someone and can be helped.

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29 Apr 2013, 11:53 am

A dunking booth at the state fair with a real live child molester in it,people would line up to throw a ball and dunk the Pedo,the money could go to abused children's services.No telling how much money could be made.
After all our government thinks its ok to waterboard people they THINK are terrorists,why can't we waterboard a convicted pervert??For a good cause,of course :twisted: :lol:

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