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DentArthurDent
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31 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm

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To be frank, the message 'God is hate' is sufficient to declare Fred and his cult heretics.


Really! How do you draw this conclusion, God is very hateful, wrathful and downright vicious, even down to allowing the vile death of Jesus, when all he had to do was speak the word and all sins would be forgiven, absolutely no need for an agonising death for any one.


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31 Mar 2014, 4:56 pm

Yes, Phelps would have been right at home in the mythological world of ancient Israel. Probably lots of places in the ancient world. Who knows if the common people actually took that
as seriously as the priests who wrote about it but...



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31 Mar 2014, 5:16 pm

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the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Just pointing out we're not all monsters. As I said, there are LGBT Christians who are despised for who they are by the Fred Phelps' of the world, but still hold to their faith.


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31 Mar 2014, 5:17 pm

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Feralucce wrote:
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the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Indeed, Kraichgauer does this a lot. He seems to follow the line that 'my friends and my church are not like that so therefore they must be representative of the majority.'


What I told Feralucce.


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31 Mar 2014, 11:28 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Kraichgauer wrote:
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the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Just pointing out we're not all monsters. As I said, there are LGBT Christians who are despised for who they are by the Fred Phelps' of the world, but still hold to their faith.


This is honestly a conversation you don't want to have with me...


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31 Mar 2014, 11:35 pm

Feralucce wrote:
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Feralucce wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
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the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Just pointing out we're not all monsters. As I said, there are LGBT Christians who are despised for who they are by the Fred Phelps' of the world, but still hold to their faith.


This is honestly a conversation you don't want to have with me...


Just making friendly conversation. Don't get your panties up your ass crack.


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31 Mar 2014, 11:52 pm

Look...

I was stating simply that I don't want to discuss that part... because I know I am very harsh on them... ESPECIALLY with what I am going through right now...

Please don't get snotty


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31 Mar 2014, 11:55 pm

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Look...

I was stating simply that I don't want to discuss that part... because I know I am very harsh on them... ESPECIALLY with what I am going through right now...

Please don't get snotty


I thought you were being unduly hostile, so if I came across as snotty, I sincerely apologize.


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31 Mar 2014, 11:59 pm

There was no hostility... if it came that way... I am sorry...

I am not in a good place right now.


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01 Apr 2014, 12:16 am

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There was no hostility... if it came that way... I am sorry...

I am not in a good place right now.


I can fully appreciate that. I hope things will be looking up for you.


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01 Apr 2014, 1:23 am

Feralucce wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Just pointing out we're not all monsters. As I said, there are LGBT Christians who are despised for who they are by the Fred Phelps' of the world, but still hold to their faith.


This is honestly a conversation you don't want to have with me...

Oh for goodness sakes. Is it necessary for Christians to fight Christians? What about the Christian notion of forgiveness?



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01 Apr 2014, 1:29 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Feralucce wrote:
the reason he is often quoted is because polls show that a lot of christians agree with his message, if not his methods


Well, I'm clearly a Christian who doesn't agree with either the WBC message or methods. I also know members of the LGBT community who are Christians, and obviously wouldn't agree with those nutso bastards, either.


And I ask this... what part of "a lot" means all?


Just pointing out we're not all monsters. As I said, there are LGBT Christians who are despised for who they are by the Fred Phelps' of the world, but still hold to their faith.


This is honestly a conversation you don't want to have with me...

Oh for goodness sakes. Is it necessary for Christians to fight Christians? What about the Christian notion of forgiveness?


Actually, Feralucce and I have made nice already. 8)


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01 Apr 2014, 3:16 am

I must have missed this page :lol:



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01 Apr 2014, 10:20 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Oh for goodness sakes. Is it necessary for Christians to fight Christians? What about the Christian notion of forgiveness?


ANd this, Kraichgauer, is an example of why I have an issue with some of them... there is an assumption that because I can have an educated discussion about the man, his beliefs, and christianity... that I must be christian... and nothing is farther from the truth...

I am pagan... an Erisian, to be precise... a follower of the Grecco-roman goddess of mischief, chaos and humor...

However... what I was stating is that it is unpleasant to have a conversation with me on the subject of the bible and christian behavior due to the fact that I came to my place in the universe by way of being a baptist minister (ordained)...


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01 Apr 2014, 10:46 am

Feralucce wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Oh for goodness sakes. Is it necessary for Christians to fight Christians? What about the Christian notion of forgiveness?


ANd this, Kraichgauer, is an example of why I have an issue with some of them... there is an assumption that because I can have an educated discussion about the man, his beliefs, and christianity... that I must be christian... and nothing is farther from the truth...

I am pagan... an Erisian, to be precise... a follower of the Grecco-roman goddess of mischief, chaos and humor...

However... what I was stating is that it is unpleasant to have a conversation with me on the subject of the bible and christian behavior due to the fact that I came to my place in the universe by way of being a baptist minister (ordained)...


Were I not a Christian, I might have been a devotee of Thor/Donar/Thunor, as he makes it rain for people's crops to grow, and unlike his Dad, Wodan/Odin, he actually goes out of his way to protect people.


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01 Apr 2014, 4:05 pm

Feralucce wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Oh for goodness sakes. Is it necessary for Christians to fight Christians? What about the Christian notion of forgiveness?


ANd this, Kraichgauer, is an example of why I have an issue with some of them... there is an assumption that because I can have an educated discussion about the man, his beliefs, and christianity... that I must be christian... and nothing is farther from the truth...

I am pagan... an Erisian, to be precise... a follower of the Grecco-roman goddess of mischief, chaos and humor...

However... what I was stating is that it is unpleasant to have a conversation with me on the subject of the bible and christian behavior due to the fact that I came to my place in the universe by way of being a baptist minister (ordained)...

Keep in mind Westboro is not an actual Baptist Church. They just use the name but they are not affiliated with any conference. They are a force unto themselves.