If there was an Autistic state would you migrate there?

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Would you move to a state for ASD people?
Yes 32%  32%  [ 28 ]
No 55%  55%  [ 48 ]
Maybe (state why) 14%  14%  [ 12 ]
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28 Jan 2015, 4:52 am

And if you fail, what then?



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28 Jan 2015, 6:50 am

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That must be 2.5 thousand miles at most. Maybe just 2.5 miles full stop.


It is 2.5 square miles.

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Lol yeah, that makes a lot more sense, didn't stop to think about it, just copied what they were saying on their Autistic State forum


We never said it was 2.5 million square miles. Either reading isn't your strong point, or you are just trying to cheaply smear us.

You guys can see for yourselves what we've written by signing up to our forum.

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On Russia, I find it amusing how some can portray Russia as the big scary intolerant bogeyman when it is the one fighting to stop the spread of National Socialism in Eastern Europe.
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Russia is just trying to defend it's sphere of influence. They are not in a position to conquer Yugoslavia, and in fact they never were.

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"If a, then z." That's very much like saying that the difference between a Mullah in the Islamic State and a lesbian gay rights activistist in San Fransisco rules out the possibility of humans every forming communities...


Good point!

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At the moment, however, my intention is focused more on developing city-in-a-box, the expansion pack to the global village construction set. I want to build a Commonwealth of MIcronations that are post-scarcity and self-sufficient. So, I'm up for helping anyone wanting to build a village (cue, "Do you want to build a village?"), but I have no wish to settle down anywhere yet; I have a heavenly city in mind. It's a dwarf planet called Ceres.


Why retreat into fantasy when reality presents so many opportunities

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And if you fail, what then?


If we fail, we fail. There are no other habitable places of terra nullius in the world, so we'll have to think of other ways to improve the lot of ourselves and fellow autistics.

The opportunity is there though, so why not take it!



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28 Jan 2015, 7:35 am

these territories are claimed by BOTH parties, not that they are unclaimed by either.... but currently under control of Serbian police. If I know anything about Serbs and Croats, (and I've been living surrounded with them whole my life), I don't think they will allow third party to claim it......but try if you want.



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28 Jan 2015, 7:43 am

and for those who want to come here CAVEAT EMPTOR....this is more like terra occupata ab inferis.

I wouldn't recommend anyone to come here....70 000 of mines still left here, there are still casualties every year and government is more preoccupied by ensuring that all the politicians have tripled values of the average salary and what is new female president wearing than clearing these areas of mines.



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28 Jan 2015, 9:41 am

The area in question is explicitly disclaimed by both sides.

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Why retreat into fantasy when reality presents so many opportunities

Indeed. The solar system alone is full of them.



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28 Jan 2015, 9:45 am

Magneto wrote:
The area in question is explicitly disclaimed by both sides.



No it isn't :) there have been Balkan wars ever since there were Croats and Serbs, and if anyone thinks they'd give an inch to someone else, they're veeeeeery wrong.

If anyone dares to come here, they might be killed. Serbs and Croats are extremely territorial, extremely tribal and extremely antagonistic towards anyone who'd like to claim their land.



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28 Jan 2015, 10:10 am

Are you seriously telling me that Serbia and Croatia are both simultaneusly claiming two different borders between them?



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28 Jan 2015, 10:26 am

Magneto wrote:
The area in question is explicitly disclaimed by both sides.

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Why retreat into fantasy when reality presents so many opportunities

Indeed. The solar system alone is full of them.


What I found in wikipedia looks like it's specifically claimed by both sides.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia%E2%80%93Serbia_border_dispute

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The Croatia–Serbia border dispute entails competing claims regarding the border at several points along the Danube River valley shared by the two countries.


"Competing claims" implies both rather than neither claiming it. And that makes more sense than both disclaiming it and is line with Booyakasha's personal knowledge.

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The bulk of the territory in dispute is in the vicinity of the town of Apatin,[6] while the Island of Šarengrad and the Island of Vukovar are cited as particularly contentious parts of the dispute. Further disputed areas are located near the town of Bačka Palanka,[5] and in the municipality of Sombor, at the tripoint of Croatia, Hungary and Serbia.


So it's not empty land. Any third party trying to claim it will be like Israelis to the Palestinians. And we can see how that's working out. You can't come into somebody else's town and say "this is mine" unless you have significant military force to back that up and make it yours. Booyakasha's assesment of their tribalism implies that they will fight hard to prevent any third party from stepping in.

Also, land mines.



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28 Jan 2015, 11:14 am

Oh yes, some of my relatives were killed for that land...and it's enough to see what Croats did in WWII to Serbs in Jasenovac and the other concentration camps...and what Serbs did to Croats in Vukovar and other sites because of that land.

Even after all these years hatred towards Serbs is still strong....because of the land. SO to claim that either side doesn't want it is very misinformed and in direct opposition to what wikipedia says as well.

There is a similar dispute over land with Slovenia....again over land.



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28 Jan 2015, 11:16 am

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Are you seriously telling me that Serbia and Croatia are both simultaneusly claiming two different borders between them?


Yeah, there is similar dispute with Slovenia....and I honestly wish o0iella all the best with finding Autistic State, but i fear that Balkans aren't safe place for that.



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28 Jan 2015, 11:20 am

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Except Germany is a sovereign nation state and its a little bit closer to Western Europe. I don't even feel comfortable with the idea of living in Germany. This location you say is in Eastern Europe. It used to be behind the Iron Curtain, you can bet if Russia gets mobile again, which its already showing signs of, you'd be in trouble. Have you heard what they do to LGBT people in Russia, I can only imagine what they'd do to a community of identified Autistics.

On Russia, I find it amusing how some can portray Russia as the big scary intolerant bogeyman when it is the one fighting to stop the spread of National Socialism in Eastern Europe. NATO on the other hand seems to be doing all it can to protect the Ukrainian fascists.


I suggest you do a little more research on Russia before you suggest Russia IS NOT AN INTOLERANT BOOGEYMAN, as the following video is quite an emotional plea for folks to stop HUNTING DOWN HOMOSEXUALS AND BURNING them alive, similar to what the KKK did to black folks here in the U.S.



Be careful what you wish for.

The grass is NOT ALWAYS greener on the other side of the 'IRISH fence'....

But anyway, it's gonna take more than one person to run a STATE, and that is precisely how much agreement will occur by the time actual feet hit the earth, if this forum is ANY INDICATION of that AT ALL.


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28 Jan 2015, 11:31 am

Booyakasha wrote:

Yeah, there is similar dispute with Slovenia....and I honestly wish o0iella all the best with finding Autistic State, but i fear that Balkans aren't safe place for that.


I wish them the best too, let's just hope they don't try to claim Gaza next 8O


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28 Jan 2015, 11:35 am

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Booyakasha wrote:

Yeah, there is similar dispute with Slovenia....and I honestly wish o0iella all the best with finding Autistic State, but i fear that Balkans aren't safe place for that.


I wish them the best too, let's just hope they don't try to claim Gaza next 8O


lol yeah :D

Maybe Greenland? North/South Pole?

I heard of one Japanese living naked and alone on one deserted island.....maybe they should search for their own little island somewhere in the ocean.



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28 Jan 2015, 11:46 am

If some group really wanted to form a new country, the simplest and easiest way to approach it would be to select a very small country (at least one with relatively few citizens) and start moving in legally, becoming citizens, and starting to vote. If they were able to move in enough people, they could possibly become the majority group in the country.



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28 Jan 2015, 12:33 pm

The borders claimed are not the same shape. Croatia claims one border, which would have Siga as being in Serbia; Serbia claims another border, which would have Siga being in Croatia. Hence, *both sides are claiming Siga belongs to the other side*. It really is that simple.



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28 Jan 2015, 12:44 pm

You people don't know the Balkans. Any territory which is under control of Serbian police, which is disputed territory, where there was recently a bloody war (actually several of them) because of territories and borders isn't safe for making an autistic state. I just don't want anyone to waste time, money and energy contemplating of coming here and possibly getting hurt....but as you wish.