Atheist kills muslims and Gun Control a bad thing?

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Stop lying, and I won't point it out anymore.

Also, you just admitted to making an unfounded personal attack out of pure spite, very naughty.

You're too much, and on top of that you're jealous.

Still angling for that mod job?

I already turned it down but if I accepted you very possibly wouldn't be posting here by now...

AS you continue to personally attack Bill by calling him a Liar and still have not presented any evidence of that but empty rhetoric.

Haha! It's your lucky day. I'm not a MOD.

And have a good day, as everyone here but you, apparently, can see 'write' through ya..

And yeah, I would have locked this thread a long time ago, too...

But apparently, no one's complaining to those in charge, and that's OK, as I don't mind helping out, as I breeze in and out of here, for a few minutes, a couple of times a day....

Jealous of what? No, seriously.

Dox-

This has degenerated into name calling, and I for one admit I was petty for it. I can only hope you can concede the same thing for calling me a liar. I am not a liar.
As for businesses being able to deny service to those they wish to exclude - if you're talking about an individual who has been disruptive, or has committed a crime on the premises, then that's obviously a good reason. But when it comes to race, or sexual orientation, or religion, etc, then no; it's a simple, black and white moral issue. As I stated before, such practices only exist to keep an unpopular group excluded or oppressed, and is never, ever right. As I've observed countless times, I know you are not a racist, so somewhere inside your my-way-or-the-highway soul, you have to know what I'm saying has moral credence.

Maybe not an intentional one, but you do say things that are not true on a regular basis, this being one of the clearest examples that I can think of off hand:

http://dev.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=265088&start=120#p6214291

When you misquote, falsely attribute, and straw-man me constantly, what else am I supposed to think? Either you're being intentionally deceptive, or you have a combination of memory and cognitive impairments that makes talking to you at all pointless; pick one.

I'm also done talking about private property rights in this thread, it's completely OT, and a transparent attempt by you to tie me to a belief that you consider damning because you don't understand it and think race is enough of a third rail to make me look bad.

That's the effed up part; you were serious when you made that "mutual admiration society" remark.

You know, I was trying to be conciliatory. And no, I wasn't trying to make you look bad with the private property rights issue; rather, it's something I very much believe has limits. I brought the subject up in the first place to demonstrate how you tow the libertarian party line, even if it clashes with your enlightened view on race.
And just to make a point clear, I was ONLY talking about the fringe element of the gun rights movement. It was you and Dirty Harry who got bent out of shape thinking I was describing all gun owners as gun fetishists. Admittedly, that was the point I had been making when I had brought it up with Dirty Harry in the first place.

And that makes me "jealous" how? And how do you know I was serious by using the term, "mutual admiration Society?" How do you know I wasn't inserting a little bit of humor?

Yeah, I guess maybe you're not jealous. After all, it seems you and aghogday have each other.
I fancy myself too much of a philistine to translate meaning out of that pseudo-poetry peppered with CAPS that passes for responses he's been famous for over the past few years but I did gather that he's trying to protect you here.
How sweet.

Raptor-

As I recall, this whole war of the keyboards started when you blindsided me with an unprovoked attack. Just how do expect me to respond?

I understand that, but I need you to understand what it is that I'm saying, that you regularly misrepresent my views, and THAT is what is pissing me off here, not any disagreement on any area of policy or opinion. I'm very precise with my words because it's important to me to express my opinions clearly and accurately, and it's extremely offensive to me to have someone distort my views, intentionally or not. Until you understand that, this is going to continue to be an issue, as it has been for years at this point.



Again, this is an area where you don't understand my views, as my beliefs have nothing to do with libertarian orthodoxy and everything to do with my belief that limiting state power is more important to the big picture than any local injustices created by merchants putting bigotry ahead of profits, as well as my belief that forcing people to hide their racism doesn't make them tolerant, only resentful. There is no clash between my views on race and on property, it's exactly like my belief in free speech that doesn't stop at speech that I disagree with or find harmful.

Remember, I didn't even call myself a libertarian until relatively recently, and even then only as a short-hand for my iconoclastic beliefs, so saying I'm influenced by libertarianism is putting the chicken before the egg.



You used a term to wind us up, and you succeeded. Congrats?

Dirty Harry here.
Don't you think the continuous rehashing of the "fringe element's" conduct post-Sandy Hook is getting a little worn out?

I don't recall you answering when I asked if you thought it was equally distasteful for the opportunistic anti-gun lobby and their pet politicians to seize the opportunity to try (and in some cases succeed) in passing anti-gun legislation in the emotional wake of that incident.

And where was this "unprovoked attack" exactly? We're up to 17 pages of this s**t so at least tell me what page it was on.

You mean this?


http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=276624&start=30#p6476802

That's hardly an unprovoked ambush, especially by Raptor's standards.