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18 Mar 2015, 7:47 pm

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for his loyalists, a proper king for America - king Richard.
The "Big Cheese" himself, eh?

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18 Mar 2015, 7:50 pm

Richard the Lyin' Hearted!



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18 Mar 2015, 10:18 pm

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Kennedy had the same woman mistress as a mobster, but Nixon was lovers with an actual mobster!


And while everybody talks about how Joe Kennedy had called in favors from the Chicago mob in order to get his son elected, what's not as widely known is how Nixon had had strong ties to the New Orleans mob.


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19 Mar 2015, 8:17 am

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Everyone knows it's Elvis Presley "King of Rock and Roll." Us Americans love our music!

elvis would never allow himself to be termed "the king" as he thought that was a sacrilege. he was a religious man.


Only when profitable.

Then again, when one is as high as he was most of the time, who can say.

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19 Mar 2015, 8:26 am

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You seem to think that I am suggesting using force. No so. Only words and having governments drop religious tax breaks as all churches and mosques, priests and imams do, --- is lie to us continually.

That's a completely different thing than what I thought you were suggesting.

I can think of a better reason to drop all religious tax breaks than to stop religion (albeit it won't happen in the middle-east where separation of church and state is non-sequitur based on sharia) - religion is supposed to be able to criticize government, a state religion becomes a government lap dog and government can twist theology any time it wants, give a church enough tax breaks and it's only different from a state church by degree. I have no problem with church groups meeting at state facilities or state groups even meeting at church facilities sometimes (good examples - precinct elections at a church gymnasium or event hall) but I like as much church and state autonomy as possible, otherwise the wedding and welding of both institutions one to the other sours equally both ways.


Both theology and philosophy are basically sets of rules to live life by.

A mind cannot leave half of itself outside the political arena. There cannot be a real separation of church and state when one holds to a religion. Especially when your own pledge of allegiance has God in it.

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19 Mar 2015, 8:28 am

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Do you think the American oligarchy can be turned back into a real democracy


The US never was a democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

It, like all other countries, is an oligarchy.

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22 Mar 2015, 12:26 am

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the maxim that Rothschilds laid down as fundamental, is: "Let us control the money of a country and we care not who makes its laws." IOW, the people who control the money supply have the lion's share of the [levers of] power, and by dint of this qualify as kings [over us 99%ers] of a sort.


Now I wonder if youtube has that one scene from the Dark Knights returns, but instead I shall refer to how the Templars fared when they controlled the money in France. The actual king of France got rid of them with the support of the monarch of the Catholic Church. Now in a democracy (of the size we have in most countries) money does indeed have a significant influence on the decision making process. If only because election campaigns are expensive and the need for post-politics positions.

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Not to argue with Webster too much but ---
Democracy is the notion of government by the people and having your vote have a meaning


Now this off course raise additional questions. First of course is the problem that the world people in the English language is an very unfortunate translation of the word demo(s), where the lesser used term folk might be better.

Also how much meaning would a single vote have if the group of voters goes beyond a certain size. Which of course means that going with your statement that democracy only works on a small scale. Since only then a single vote might have the meaning you want it to have.

As you see from my critisism of your definition of democracy there are some problems with it. The major problem of course is that most people use the term democracy with at best only a vague idea of its meaning.

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Each of us is to have a chance to change something.


What is stopping you?

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King Bush.

It does not come off the tong well, but it is what it is.

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That would be king George #, since that how it goes in most monarchies.

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The US never was a democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic.


I presume you refer to the disdain of your founding fathers to towards the notions of democracy and how it could lead to mob rule?



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22 Mar 2015, 7:41 am

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That would be king George #, since that how it goes in most monarchies.


Well, one wonders how it would be in the United States ....after all they had a president with the name Bush and his vice-president with the nickname Dick (!). Jeez, knowing the sexual meaning behind those words are just utter amazeballs :wink: :D



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22 Mar 2015, 3:02 pm

Mr. Powers wrote:
Sigbold wrote:
That would be king George #, since that how it goes in most monarchies.


Well, one wonders how it would be in the United States ....after all they had a president with the name Bush and his vice-president with the nickname Dick (!). Jeez, knowing the sexual meaning behind those words are just utter amazeballs :wink: :D

all the better for screwing americans over.



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22 Mar 2015, 4:16 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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That would be king George #, since that how it goes in most monarchies.


Well, one wonders how it would be in the United States ....after all they had a president with the name Bush and his vice-president with the nickname Dick (!). Jeez, knowing the sexual meaning behind those words are just utter amazeballs :wink: :D

all the better for screwing americans over.


Good one! :lol:


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23 Mar 2015, 11:58 pm

Mr. Powers wrote:
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That would be king George #, since that how it goes in most monarchies.


Well, one wonders how it would be in the United States ....after all they had a president with the name Bush and his vice-president with the nickname Dick (!). Jeez, knowing the sexual meaning behind those words are just utter amazeballs :wink: :D


Funny remark, but kind of irrelevant. Since what might be the habit in republic, would not be so in a monarchy where the head of state usually comes from the same house/family as the previous one. And monarchies with an elected head of state (see for example the Vatican) follow the same rule.

Also the obsession with the potential sexual meaning of such words in the American culture most likely comes from puritan influence.



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24 Mar 2015, 12:08 am

America is still in its adolescence. a lot of growing up yet to do. god please let us have the chance to make it past this phase.



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24 Mar 2015, 2:05 am

in a manner of speaking...



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24 Mar 2015, 12:21 pm

On my mom's side I'm descended from a line of kings in Ireland that had everything stolen from them in 1318AD, and I live in the USA (born in Texas, moved to Minnesota when my stepdad found work here), so could I be one? :P


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24 Mar 2015, 1:02 pm

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On my mom's side I'm descended from a line of kings in Ireland that had everything stolen from them in 1318AD, and I live in the USA (born in Texas, moved to Minnesota when my stepdad found work here), so could I be one? :P


Parakeet, where the hell have you been? And why have your number of posts been reduced to a mere 38?


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