I don't like Ann Coultar.

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I'm realize I have views that put me in the "conservative" tradition, but I don't like her. I say this as someone who owns several of her books. I feel bad about buying them in the first place. She is a very talented writer (a sort of Maureen Dowd of the right) but she (more, and more as of late) says utterly rude and mean things.

What brought this topic to mind was this. Now the both the audio clip and the quote are so short that they may be taken absurdly out of context, but then again I never would have used the word she used in the first place. The applause she receives is disappointing.

are you familiar with communist russia at all? maybe the idea of "joining the party"?

ann coulter purely got fame because she "joined the party" and reaped the benefits of being their mouthpiece for a while. now she's just an annoying c**t whose ego feeds her biggotry.


the sad thing is there's a lot of people who'll side with her.


our country is de-evolving.

I didn't say this but I broke with Coulter (that doesn't sound right me being a nobody ) a while ago and wrote about it (not here). This just reminded me of it.

ADDENDUM: Ugh...It took me forever to find this. I wrote this on 16 June 2006.

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ADDENDUM II: I will add it was the offensive wording was not only "Jewish" but "fat Jewish girl."

I am very familiar with the Soviet Union, and have read many books on the subject. You are not comparing a political party in the multi-party United States with a one-party state Soviet Union, correct?



Ann Coulter was never the "mouthpiece" of the Republican party. She may have been a talented writer and written some books that made some money, but she certainly never had an official party position or anything like that. She was fired at National Review after she wrote wrote after 9/11 (an event in which her friend Barbera Olson was killed), "We should bomb their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."

You can argue that she is popular in the conservative movement which is a separate thing entirely (although she is certainly less popular then she once was). The conservative movement largely is independent of the Republican party (just like the liberal netroots are independent of the Democratic party, and does not walk the party line. It largely believes George W. Bush is left-of-center on domestic while largely supporting him on foreign policy matters. It is very angry at Bush over things like the border. I am speaking in generalities and not in regards to my own opinion.

The liberal Democrats have their extremists too. To find them, just log onto Daily Kos, or The Huffington Post or listen to Randi Rhodes, or read the writings of Chris Hedges.



Again, I am not here to defend Coulter, but statements such as these do not exactly demonstrate a sense of higher morality.



I don't necessarily disagree. [Unnecessary point with the potential to change the topic removed-Jim]

Her Adam's Apple is just TOO large for her to be 100% female

by my referencing the idea of joining the party was more that of the neo-conservative movement...which has an entire tv network dedicated to it (fox news) not to mention a stranglehold on politics.

so when some dumb b***h like coulter comes along spouting unfiltered neo-conservative ideals....of course she'll be put up on a pedestal. i think it's revolting.


and how does a choice in words display morality? i very carefully chose my words. only the ugliest of words could describe that c**t. i definately have higher morality...but also evolved morality. specifically, i do not adhere to traditional morals but rather define morals by what is right. swear words are neutral in my book. they're around for emphasis and to be used as such.


wish i still had that video of the kids offering porn for the trade-in of bibles or other religious texts. i thought that was a very ingenious idea and a great way to demonstrate a different, more evolved morality.

What do you personally believe the "neo-conservative movement" consists of? In other words, what does one have to be to be a neo-conservative in your view? Neo-conservative, of course, in a simple way means "new conservative" and that is how those such as Norman Podhortoz used the word (as a reference to there movement from left to right). However the word has now encompussed far more then that. It's precise meaning is difficult to define since it is rarely use by most self-proclaimed conservatives. The few that do use it, such as former Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, use it to criticize they view as "not true conservatives." Although, it is possible that some conservatives, including myself, would never have used the term had the term liberal been grabbed at some point in the past by the New Dealers(?) Perhaps you could answer it this way, Am I a neo-conservative?

In regards to Fox News, I am personally not much of a fan of the network, and I agree it is biased and increasingly so. However, I would argue this is because they are attempting to gain in the ratings they because of some political conspiracy. Fox News also carries more extensive coverage then the CNN, ect. of comparatively minor stories of kidnapings of missing white teenagers and celebrity scandals, and this is not political. In addition, MSNBC has been attempting to gain in the ratings using an aggressively left-wing lineup (even to the left then Fox is to the right). Keith Oberman, who left-wing, rather then center-right like Bill O'Reilly has recently been added as a News Analysis person to NBC news. NBC news already has other left wing personas but no right-wing ones.

CNN is biased to the left, just as Fox News is to the right. Recently they have become more aggressive, showing terrorist propoganda videos on the grounds that "the American people have a right to know what is going in Iraq." CNN would never show pictures distributed straight from the U.S. military, however. It should be noted that CNN Headline News has a right-wing personality (Glenn Beck) hosting a show in the evenings.

Probably the biggest difference between the left-wing and right-wing personalities is the right-wing ones will openly say what they say is opinion and that they are biased. The people on the left constantly insist they are perfectly neutral.



Are you suggesting the the government should censor political ideas? If you, in theory, could censor my ideas then why should I, in theory, not censor yours?



I agree they are for emphasis. However you lower yourself when you describe a person in that manner. One should demonstrate one's superiority through one's intellect, not in crude insults.



The willingness of nonbelievers to do anything to harm those who may believe is really pathetic. This is truly cruel behavior. Whether or not God exists, or any theology is based on anything is justified may be less important on this Earth then whether that theology creates good people. Apparently atheism creates very angry people.

Ann Coulter is a laughingstock at best. She is a bitter, confused, middle-aged shrew who holds forth endlessly on family values, and yet has never even had a steady boyfriend at any point in the course of her life, let alone a husband, let alone children.

One wonders why Republicans haven't started asking themselves precisely why this is.

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i never said censor it. i said i strongly disapprove of it. it's the idea of a free market of ideals. it's what democracy is based on. why we have freedom of speech. the idea being that the bad ideas will eventually fall to the wayside as information and ideas are freely exchanged and develop.


i'm just looking to develop the idea of neo-conservatism out of existence by debunking the idiocy and bigotry of it.

i'm taking this to my newly created morality thread.

Fox trumpets its news coverage as perfectly fair and balanced, when it is anything but. You want to explain that?



And how does the Bible trade-in "harm" Christians? Care to explain that?

Or, is this yet another case of Christians feeling as if they've been automatically "wronged" in some way because some people don't believe as they do? I've no sympathy whatsoever.

This is a fair criticism. I would further add that I think Shawn Hannity is an obnoxious baffoon. However, Fox News is not the kind of super-power that it is set up to be. The various ABC, NBC, and CBS news shows all get significantly higher ratings then Fox News does. If someone wants to point to a right-winger (don't say George Will) on the big three, or some kind of example of pro-Bush propaganda feel free.

The question is not if you don't like her it's does anybody

I misunderstood skafather84's original reference. When he referred to "kids" I took it literally. However, he meant college students. My larger point, however stands as I intended.

Interestingly, on college campuses, it is religious students that tend to have their organizations clamped down on.



Very few of Ann Coulter's columns, if memory serves correctly, had anything to do with family values. How do you know if she is bitter? Do you talk to her weekly?



What are you suggesting? Is it that women who have never had a steady boyfriend by the midpoint in their life shouldn't be taken seriously, or only right-wing ones?

well dont you know thats how you get on tv these days? i hardley ever see anyone saying anything nice on tv anymore. and yeah she is annoying, i though i needed to eat a sandwich. that girl needs to eat a couple

rush limbaugh.

...or does neoconservative garbage dominating daytime radio talk count?