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09 Feb 2009, 12:50 pm

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has every right to voice his disagreements

His "disagreements" consist of taunts, insults, and slander. That is not legitimately an opinion.

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09 Feb 2009, 12:58 pm

My beliefs are very important to me.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:02 pm

slowmutant wrote:

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has every right to voice his disagreements

His "disagreements" consist of taunts, insults, and slander. That is not legitimately an opinion.

It sure is. You just don't like it.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:08 pm

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My beliefs are very important to me.

And my beliefs are important to me. If I see something as silly I will say so. And you have the perfect right to disagree and prove otherwise.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:13 pm

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My beliefs are very important to me.

And my beliefs are important to me. If I see something as silly I will say so. And you have the perfect right to disagree and prove otherwise.

Sand, some things you can keep to yourself w/o having your beliefs infringed upon. It's not about proving anything to anyone.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:22 pm

slowmutant wrote:

Sand wrote:

Tim_Tex wrote:

My beliefs are very important to me.

And my beliefs are important to me. If I see something as silly I will say so. And you have the perfect right to disagree and prove otherwise.

Sand, some things you can keep to yourself w/o having your beliefs infringed upon. It's not about proving anything to anyone.

This whole thread is about NOT keeping things to yourself. I see the major distortion of reality that religion imposes on the world as a deep threat to human existence and I certainly will not squelch my outlook to please the root cause of this danger. I have not much longer to live and the time I have left I feel should be used as well as I can see it used. Considering the odds I have very little chance of making any impact but I cannot not try.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:30 pm

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This whole thread is about NOT keeping things to yourself.

To myself, you mean.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:34 pm

By your logic, I could create a thread of my own and rail on and about how homosexuality is illogical/unnatural/sinful, but I won't. It's rude and it's counterproductive and it serves only to alienate people.

Complete the sentence:

__________ is the better of valour.

Give up? It's discretion.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:36 pm

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This whole thread is about NOT keeping things to yourself.

To myself, you mean.

To one's self. If you are going to suppress your feelings and your opinions in a discussion the discussion becomes a farce. If you don't like what I say, don't read it. If you are really upset by my opinions that means you grant me at least a modicum of respect for having them. If you have no respect for what I say nothing I say will affect you at all.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:44 pm

Since the mods are on vacation in Tahiti, you can say whatever you like. But if you absolutely refuse to censor yourself, you might get youself into some trouble. No, not trouble for speaking your mind, trouble for what you say and how you choose to say it.

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09 Feb 2009, 1:53 pm

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Apparently you are offended deeply because I confessed that I find Christians silly. Am I permitted to be amused by Christian nonsense or is this some sort of net blasphemy?

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09 Feb 2009, 2:07 pm

I do not consider it to be nonsense because I am a Christian. I do not consider it to be silly.

Why is it so hard for you to show respect to others?

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09 Feb 2009, 2:20 pm

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I do not consider it to be nonsense because I am a Christian. I do not consider it to be silly.

Why is it so hard for you to show respect to others?

To perceive something as silly is not done lightly or without comparison to the standards I have respected for my whole life. It is highly offensive to me that you should shove your childish nonsense in front of me and declare I should have any respect for it. It does not stand up to any sensible perception of the universe in my paradigm. The human race has to grow up very quickly or destroy itself and all life on this planet and I highly respect the wonders of life on this planet. Religion insofar as I can see it is focused on death and the unsubstantiated daydreams of people I don't respect as to what happens after death. My business concerns life and every minute of it is precious to me. That's where my values lie.

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09 Feb 2009, 3:03 pm

slowmutant wrote:

By your logic, I could create a thread of my own and rail on and about how homosexuality is illogical/unnatural/sinful, but I won't. It's rude and it's counterproductive and it serves only to alienate people.

Complete the sentence:

_TRUTH_ is the better of valour.

Give up? It's discretion.

Well, I should like to point out that the claim that Homosexuality is unnatural has been demostrated to be factually False. I have a feeling the the smarter christians KNOW this but they will do EVERYTHING they possibly can to suppress this token of truth because they perceive it as a threat to their way of life. Christians want people to believe that homosexuality is unnatural so they'll think of it as "bad" and create social incentives to discourage it from being practiced. When christians condemn masturbation as being sinful, the idea behind it is that people are supposed to obtain sexual gratification only within marriage. Christian fundamentalists are very intolerant, combine that with the fact that they are ACTIVELY anti-rational, the more tolerance we allow for their garbage the more they'll use that as an oppertunity to PUSH their ideas onto us!

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09 Feb 2009, 3:08 pm

Christians are constantly badmouthing pagans and wiccans the same way they've badmouthed jews and muslims for hundreds of years. Yet the christians are the first to cry and whine when someone does something to them.

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09 Feb 2009, 3:09 pm

Back to this "Jesus is Savior" website...

They actually claimed that George Harrison was burning in hell. If that isn't evidence of the ridiculousness of the site, I don't know what is. Say what you want about Marilyn Manson, Ozzy, and Jimmy Page, but stay away from the amazing person that was George Harrison.

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