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06 Mar 2009, 12:30 am

And read Krugman (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/opini ... ugman.html) in today's NY Times.



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06 Mar 2009, 12:51 am

Sand wrote:
And read Krugman (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/opini ... ugman.html) in today's NY Times.


Oh - switching gears to the stock market??? I don't think the liberal OR conservative American media know how to address that.

This is NOT Clinton economics - not even close. That's what has everyone (including Wall Street) freaking out.

Even Alan Greenspan has thrown up his hands and left it to the forces of a new generation/perspective plus old fashioned American capitalism.

My girl - Erin Burnett - calls it all "religious differences". Its true. We don't know what's going to happen and we need to just have an open mind and look for opportunity where we find it. While we're debating "socialism" (gasp!) with the old-school American establishment you (European) guys need to give us some latitude and time.


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06 Mar 2009, 1:19 am

MmeLePen wrote:
Sand wrote:
And read Krugman (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/06/opini ... ugman.html) in today's NY Times.


Oh - switching gears to the stock market??? I don't think the liberal OR conservative American media know how to address that.

This is NOT Clinton economics - not even close. That's what has everyone (including Wall Street) freaking out.

Even Alan Greenspan has thrown up his hands and left it to the forces of a new generation/perspective plus old fashioned American capitalism.

My girl - Erin Burnett - calls it all "religious differences". Its true. We don't know what's going to happen and we need to just have an open mind and look for opportunity where we find it. While we're debating "socialism" (gasp!) with the old-school American establishment you (European) guys need to give us some latitude and time.


I am not a "European guy" I am an American and spent the first 40 years of my life in New York City and other parts of the States and I am very concerned about the USA and its insane last years with G.W.Bush and company. I am concerned with the rapid decline of civil rights and the violent tilt towards the wealthy elite. The Krugman concern is not with the stock market alone but with the entire financial fabric of the country which is in shreds and blowing in the wind because of the dishonesty of the huge financial and insurance establishments.



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06 Mar 2009, 4:18 pm

the cult of Santa Muerte is quite funny:

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I do appreciate the morbidity and dark humour of it though


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06 Mar 2009, 5:03 pm

"Coloured revolutions" are more effective in the end than the military. General Nebojsa Pavkovic may have achieved a stunning embarassment of Nato when a mere six Yugoslav tanks were destroyed by it during the 1999 attack but thanks to a coup d'etat sponsored in Washington, Pavkovic now faces prison following a phony trial at The Hague to punish him for daring to make a fool of Nato.



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17 Mar 2009, 11:27 am

A silly, yet very powerful religious belief out there is the worship of the State of Israel. Many of the so-called American Christians are Israel-worshippers. Their sacred words are "He who blesses them (Israel) shall be blessed and he who curses them shall be cursed". Some of them claim that the British Empire collapsed because it fought Jewish Zionists in Palestine in the late 1940s! A Senator from Oklahoma claimed that the Sept 11 2001 attacks were the result of insufficient devotion to Israel, was God's punishment... they say that God judges people as well as nations based on their attitude and devotion to Israel...

They claim also that when Armageddon happens (and they hope it's very soon, in their lifetimes so that they need not die and instead are Raptured), Israel will represent the forces of God and therefore anyone opposed to them in any way are the allies of Satan. Therefore, the Prime Minister of Israel becomes by definition God's Deputy. Sure, the Rastafarians worshipped the Emperor of Ethiopia but this did not translate into political power of any consequence - unlike the worshippers of Israel.

For years the Soviet Union was said to be the Evil side in the inevitable Armageddon and would fight Israel... this theology nicely matched the rise of the neoconservative movement, started by disgruntled Jewish communists who were mad at the Soviets for ending its support of Israel and ending disproportionate Jewish influence in their communist regimes... the likes of Irving Kristol, for example. This feud continues to this day with these folk supporting the likes of Khordorkovsky whilst the Russian government has prosecuted him to a conviction and sentence in Siberia. An odd alliance continues between these disgruntled ex Jewish communists and Israel-worshippers calling themselves Christians. Together, they made the U.S. invasion of Iraq happen.



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17 Mar 2009, 11:53 am

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A silly, yet very powerful religious belief out there is the worship of the State of Israel. Many of the so-called American Christians are Israel-worshippers. Their sacred words are "He who blesses them (Israel) shall be blessed and he who curses them shall be cursed". Some of them claim that the British Empire collapsed because it fought Jewish Zionists in Palestine in the late 1940s! A Senator from Oklahoma claimed that the Sept 11 2001 attacks were the result of insufficient devotion to Israel, was God's punishment... they say that God judges people as well as nations based on their attitude and devotion to Israel...



These fundies make two mistakes.

1. They take their mistranslation of the TNKH literally
2. They do not know the difference between Midinath Yisroel, the legal and secular state of Israel and the Bnai' Yisroel the descendants of Jacob the son of Issac the son of Abraham.

As a result they are practicing a form of idolatry. Shame on them! Jews do not worship the State of Israel anymore than they worship any other secular State.

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18 Mar 2009, 4:09 pm

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Fallout did affect some (for example some Japanese fishermen on the Unlucky-Maru got a dose of fallout and some died). The number of people killed by fallout from the tests was far less than the number who die in automobile accidents each year.


Firstly I suggest that you talk to the ex residents of Rongelap about fallout. Secondly the atmospheric tests were done over unpopulated Islands so your car arguement ahs no relevance

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All this garment rending over nukes! We killed more people in one night in Tokyo (March 1945) than in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It was done with non-nuclear weapons. Incendiary (General Le May's choice) bombs set a fire storm that wiped out 16 square miles of Tokyo's most densely populated district. 125,000 people were turned into charcoal briquettes in one night.


And in Essen and Dresden the same thing, but again your argument is disengenuos, the deaths caused by these firestorms stopped with those immediately effected. with Nagasaki and Hiroshima the death toll is arguably still rising the generational effect of the radiation is continuing to produce cancers and the like.

Also the bombs used on Japan were miniscule in comparision to what we have today. DO you really think that America will come out a Nuclear War with its society entact!

You talk of caring only for what affects the US, EVERYTHING EFFECTS THE US we all effectivley live on an Island without boats


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19 Mar 2009, 1:52 pm

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19 Mar 2009, 3:41 pm

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Also the bombs used on Japan were miniscule in comparision to what we have today. DO you really think that America will come out a Nuclear War with its society entact!

You talk of caring only for what affects the US, EVERYTHING EFFECTS THE US we all effectivley live on an Island without boats


The enemy is Islam. Do the Muslims now have the means to deliver them in mass? No. So if we pre-emptively strike we will sustain relatively little damage. If we wait, they might plant nukes in some of our large cities and then we would loose millions. But we would still prevail. The last one standing is The Winner. We need not worry about Europe and China since we owe them so much money. They need us intact to collect.

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19 Mar 2009, 3:55 pm

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The enemy is Islam.

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Do you really believe this?


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19 Mar 2009, 5:11 pm

DentArthurDent wrote:
ruveyn wrote:

The enemy is Islam.

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Do you really believe this?


I can tell you to within six inches where I was on the morning of 9/11/2001 at 08:46. You bet I believe it. On 9/10/2001 I hardly ever thought about Muslims. On 9/12/2001 I wanted to kill them all. I am a 9/11 patriot.

The same thing happened to Americans at around 1:30 P.M. eastern time on 7/12/1941. After that the general consensus was to kill every last Jap Bastard on Earth.

We got our revenge on Aug 6 and Aug 9 1945. It felt good. Payback is better than sex.

Kore wa des'ka Mother Fu**er. Sayanora Jap Bastards.


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19 Mar 2009, 5:30 pm

But now, if it weren't for the Japanese, we wouldn't have such incredible technology, nice anime to watch, plus someone to lend our government lots and lots of moolah.



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19 Mar 2009, 5:51 pm

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The same thing happened to Americans at around 1:30 P.M. eastern time on 7/12/1941. After that the general consensus was to kill every last Jap Bastard on Earth.

We got our revenge on Aug 6 and Aug 9 1945. It felt good. Payback is better than sex.

This is the site for you! Unfortuently, for the rest of us who are less homicidial, we have at least respect for human beings. Pearl Harbour was terrible, but I might add that Americans were not very keen on taking prisoners of war, and the officers actually had to tell them to spare some now and again, so they may retrieve some intelligence.

Oh, and the bombs didn't have to be dropped. Japan was going to fall anyway. It was just America's way of thumping her chest and saying "I'm so big and strong!" I think the only reason that Tokyo wasn't nuked, was that if was, there would be no Japanese authority to surrender.


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19 Mar 2009, 9:20 pm

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Kore wa des'ka Mother Fu**er. Sayanora Jap Bastards.


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Incidentally, that makes no sense.

Just so you know.


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