Rate the U.S. govt's efficacy at dispensing justice.

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Rate the U.S. govt's efficacy at dispensing justice.
<10% effective at righting wrongs 27%  27%  [ 3 ]
10% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
20% effective at righting wrongs 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
30% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
40% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
50% effective at righting wrongs 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
60% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
70% effective at righting wrongs 9%  9%  [ 1 ]
80% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
90% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
>90% effective at righting wrongs 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I just want to see the results. 45%  45%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 11

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12 Mar 2009, 9:21 am

Make this a sum total figure, including homeland justice together with international.
I assume Americans voting in this poll will be more in touch with the govt's justice here in our homeland,
while international voters will be more sensitive to our govt's international practices.

It's good and necessary for any government to be accountable to its people, and to therefore be under constant evaluation by them.

So, how good is the U.S. govt doing at righting wrongs? (Go by your personal definitions of right and wrong, if you have any.)



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12 Mar 2009, 9:26 am

What do we have to compare it to?

Much of the work of government is unnoticed anyways.


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12 Mar 2009, 10:14 am

Orwell wrote:
What do we have to compare it to?

Much of the work of government is unnoticed anyways.


That is true. We would have to have somewhat comparable societies, side by side, one with government, one without.

No such experimental setup exists and it is unlikely it will ever exist.

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12 Mar 2009, 10:56 am

Note: I'm asking for opinions, not a scientific measurement. My raw opinions about things actually present themselves to me in percentages, so I assume that's the way it works with some other Aspies as well.

For instance, I feel that our government is 30% effective at righting wrongs.



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12 Mar 2009, 11:11 am

With cases like Terri Schivo and OJ Simpson, it makes me wonder.

I give the court system a 50/50 chance of righting wrongs,
basically meaning you'd get as fair a verdict from a quarter.



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12 Mar 2009, 11:23 am

20/80 rate beacuse the gov in late years has done practicly nothing to stop things that are injust... Beaucse the gov can be paid off by companies to look the other way... even if they are doing somthing wrong.. and thell not tell somone untuil people die... so overall effectiveness 20%! !! ! :x


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12 Mar 2009, 2:48 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Note: I'm asking for opinions, not a scientific measurement. My raw opinions about things actually present themselves to me in percentages, so I assume that's the way it works with some other Aspies as well.

For instance, I feel that our government is 30% effective at righting wrongs.

If you're not asking for a scientific measurement, qualitative measurements such as "very effective," "Fairly effective" "rarely effective" "completely ineffective" would seem to make more sense. I can't put a percentage to anything without that percentage actually representing something real, which in this case would have to be the impossible measurement of every justice or injustice affected by government.

Anyways, I tend to think that government is fairly effective, but with some significant shortcoming that need to be worked on.


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12 Mar 2009, 2:50 pm

Governments are not just.



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12 Mar 2009, 2:52 pm

Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Governments are not just.


Libertarian! :lol:



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12 Mar 2009, 2:53 pm

Ragtime wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Governments are not just.


Libertarian! :lol:

I'm libertarian, and I can accept that governments can be just. There are some current injustices, but I think those are more a matter of poor implementation than some flaw inherent in the system of government.


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12 Mar 2009, 6:53 pm

The weak point of this poll is that it does not consider the amount of injustice the government dispenses in the name of justice; if that were factored in, I would say the net result would be a negitave number.


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12 Mar 2009, 7:45 pm

Orwell wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Governments are not just.


Libertarian! :lol:

I'm libertarian, and I can accept that governments can be just. There are some current injustices, but I think those are more a matter of poor implementation than some flaw inherent in the system of government.


Limited governments can be better in two ways:

1. They are less likely to be unjust
2. They are more likely to spend their time and resources protecting the lives and property of the citizens than agrandizing their power and making burocratic inefficiency.

The bad news is that a limited government can provide less of a "safety net" to help adversely impacted folk during an economic turn down. Maybe this is for the best, but I am not certain.


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12 Mar 2009, 7:49 pm

Orwell wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Governments are not just.


Libertarian! :lol:

I'm libertarian, and I can accept that governments can be just. There are some current injustices, but I think those are more a matter of poor implementation than some flaw inherent in the system of government.

Hmm, I appear to be inching left politically, and I still think government is inherently unjust.


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