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31 Mar 2023, 11:34 pm

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Looks like my sarcasm went over some heads. I'm saying Trump may well be rescued from irrelevance with this action - Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans may have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The smart thing to do would have been to leave him ranting and raving on his Truth Social network. When a very powerful political figure is moaning about persecution, stolen elections and corrupt governments - the absolute last thing you want to do is give him ammunition.


Satire isn't big in these here parts, pardner. 8)



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31 Mar 2023, 11:35 pm

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Dood...
That is a guard tower.
They have rifles up there! 8O

Umm...yeah. Thats his point.



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01 Apr 2023, 11:24 am

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Like so many, it would not surprise me if Donald "Pumpkin" Trump decides to try to make a fool out of himself even more by becoming a fugitive.

IMO, China, North Korea, or Russia can have him. :lol:

Commentator David Pakman figures trump won't flee to Russia or wherever because he's such a narcissist that he truly believes he won't face consequences for his actions.. so will stick around and then be stunned when he does - multiplied by however many more convictions he has in several other cases. Documents, rape, J6, tax fraud etc etc.


You think he is really going to be gaoled? :scratch:


I had to google that. Never seen that spelling before ever.

Anyways, I tend to agree with Michael Cohen. For a variety of trump’s crimes, he deserves to die in jail, But, he’s more likely to get house arrest.. not because he deserves a break to be sentenced to Netflix and Doordash as an old rich white guy, but because he’s such a f*****g national security risk.. he Was given daily intelligence briefings as potus, and it would be incredibly easy to get a spy next to him and get all kinds of secrets he would 100% guaranteed blab in jail.

So, I think he Deserves jail, but he won’t likely get it because it’s easier to control who has access to him at a private residence or facility than it would be in jail. Other than that maybe we’ll get lucky and he gets solitary at some super max or gitmo or something.


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01 Apr 2023, 4:11 pm

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Like so many, it would not surprise me if Donald "Pumpkin" Trump decides to try to make a fool out of himself even more by becoming a fugitive.

IMO, China, North Korea, or Russia can have him. :lol:

Commentator David Pakman figures trump won't flee to Russia or wherever because he's such a narcissist that he truly believes he won't face consequences for his actions.. so will stick around and then be stunned when he does - multiplied by however many more convictions he has in several other cases. Documents, rape, J6, tax fraud etc etc.


You think he is really going to be gaoled? :scratch:


I had to google that. Never seen that spelling before ever.

I think he Deserves jail, but he won’t likely get it because it’s easier to control who has access to him at a private residence or facility than it would be in jail. Other than that maybe we’ll get lucky and he gets solitary at some super max or gitmo or something.


If not, perhaps at a super max mental health facility given how much damage he did to the US?


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01 Apr 2023, 5:55 pm

Very good point on the security risks, goldfish.

Makes me realize, though, that even now security risks are increasing because his MO is retaliation when he sees himself as wronged.


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01 Apr 2023, 6:28 pm

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Very good point on the security risks, goldfish.

Makes me realize, though, that even now security risks are increasing because his MO is retaliation when he sees himself as wronged.


I can only imagine the rapid fire disinformation campaign the CIA is blasting around the world right now.. spreading so many conflicting bits of info that no nation will have any idea of anything trump tries to tell or sell them is true or not.


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02 Apr 2023, 12:23 am

goldfish21 wrote:
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Like so many, it would not surprise me if Donald "Pumpkin" Trump decides to try to make a fool out of himself even more by becoming a fugitive.

IMO, China, North Korea, or Russia can have him. :lol:

Commentator David Pakman figures trump won't flee to Russia or wherever because he's such a narcissist that he truly believes he won't face consequences for his actions.. so will stick around and then be stunned when he does - multiplied by however many more convictions he has in several other cases. Documents, rape, J6, tax fraud etc etc.


You think he is really going to be gaoled? :scratch:

I had to google that. Never seen that spelling before ever.

Anyways, I tend to agree with Michael Cohen. For a variety of trump’s crimes, he deserves to die in jail, But, he’s more likely to get house arrest.. not because he deserves a break to be sentenced to Netflix and Doordash as an old rich white guy, but because he’s such a f*****g national security risk.. he Was given daily intelligence briefings as potus, and it would be incredibly easy to get a spy next to him and get all kinds of secrets he would 100% guaranteed blab in jail.

So, I think he Deserves jail, but he won’t likely get it because it’s easier to control who has access to him at a private residence or facility than it would be in jail. Other than that maybe we’ll get lucky and he gets solitary at some super max or gitmo or something.


Insightful.



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02 Apr 2023, 8:43 pm

^ :mrgreen:



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03 Apr 2023, 2:40 pm

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Trump lawyers argue against allowing cameras in the courtroom
Trump's lawyers are arguing against a media request to allow cameras in the courtroom for his arraignment.

"We respectfully write in opposition to the media request ... to permit videographers, photographers, and radio journalists to take audio/visual recordings during tomorrow’s arraignment," they wrote in a letter to Judge Juan Merchan, who’s expected to oversee Trump’s arraignment tomorrow.

"We submit that the media request should be denied because it will create a circus-like atmosphere at the arraignment, raise unique security concerns, and is inconsistent with President Trump’s presumption of innocence," Trump's lawyers said.

In a separate letter sent to Merchan, the Manhattan district attorney's office said that it will "defer to Your Honor’s discretionary determination of how best to manage these proceedings."

The letter, however, listed several points that the DA's office said might help the judge make a decision on the media's request. It says, for example, that there "does not appear to be a categorical prohibition on cameras during an arraignment," but it also said that denying the request would be acceptable "in the interest of avoiding potential prejudice to the defendant, maintaining an orderly proceeding, assuring the safety of the participants in the proceeding, or for other reasons."

New York law targets protests outside courthouses
If protesters gathering in New York City in support of Trump want to stay out of legal trouble, they might want to make sure they are more than 200 feet away from the Manhattan courthouse where his arraignment takes place tomorrow.

That’s because there’s a New York state law that criminalizes various activities around state courthouses, including efforts to influence proceedings inside.

The full text says that anyone can be prosecuted for criminal contempt in the second degree if they are within 200 feet of a courthouse and make comments "concerning the conduct of a trial being held in such courthouse or the character of the court or jury engaged in such trial or calling for or demanding any specified action or determination by such court or jury in connection with such trial.”

A planned protest tomorrow across the street from the Manhattan criminal courthouse in Collect Pond Park headlined by firebrand Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, is likely far enough away not to violate the law, which has rarely been enforced over the years. It is one of several laws aimed at protecting the administration of justice that could be implicated during Trump’s prosecution.

Just last year, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the law in the face of a challenge brought by the American Civil Liberties Union claiming it violates free speech rights. The case involved Michael Picard, who was arrested for handing out fliers to passersby outside a courthouse in the Bronx borough.

Brian Hauss, the ACLU lawyer who represented Picard, said in an interview that protesters are free to say what they want as long as they keep their distance.

“If you are 201 feet away, you are totally within your rights to talk about a case,” he said.

As to whether Collect Pond Park is outside the 200-feet radius of the court, Hauss thinks it is but, he added, "I haven't measured it."

Trump lands at LaGuardia
Trump just landed at LaGuardia Airport in Queens just before 3:30 p.m. ET.


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03 Apr 2023, 5:44 pm

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Trump arrived at his residence at Trump Tower in Manhattan shortly before 4:15 p.m. ET.
Trump waved at the crowd as he entered the building

Trump is in Trump Tower for the night and he is not expected to leave until tomorrow for his scheduled hearing at 2:15 p.m. ET, two senior law enforcement officials said.

Trump adds new attorney to legal team
Trump's latest legal filings reveal that he has added lawyer Todd Blanche to his legal team.

A biography from the firm's website that has been removed described him as representing clients who faced "grand jury subpoenas, criminal charges, regulatory inquiries and actions, and internal investigations." He spent nine years as a prosecutor in the U.S. attorney's office for Southern New York.


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03 Apr 2023, 7:56 pm

Hood practice run for the more serious indictments on the way.


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03 Apr 2023, 8:39 pm

Trump to be charged Tuesday with 34 felony counts, but spared handcuffs and mug shot

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Donald Trump will be placed under arrest on Tuesday and informed that he has been charged with 34 felony counts for falsification of business records, according to a source who has been briefed on the procedures for the arraignment of the former president.

A New York City Police arrest report summarizing the charges against Trump will then be prepared and entered into the court system before he is led into a courtroom to be formally arraigned on the charges, none of which are misdemeanors.

But, the source said, Trump will not be put in handcuffs, placed in a jail cell or subjected to a mug shot — typical procedures even for white-collar defendants until a judge has weighed in on pretrial conditions. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office, which has been consulting with the Secret Service and New York City court officials, concluded that there was no reason to subject the former president to handcuffs or a mug shot.

The stated reason for handcuffing defendants is on the grounds that the suspect might be a flight risk or a threat to the district attorney or court personnel, neither of which were judged to be relevant to the handling of a former president protected at all times by a phalanx of Secret Service agents.

The charge of falsification of business records can be prosecuted in New York state as a misdemeanor. But Bragg’s office bumped up all the charges to Class E felonies — the lowest level of felonies in the New York State penal code on the grounds that the conduct was intended to conceal another underlying crime, according to the source.

Under the New York State penal code, a conviction for the Class E felony of falsifying business records can result in a prison term of up to four years. But as a practical matter, that seems extremely unlikely. “No one gets jail time for that as a first offender,” said a New York law enforcement official.

The evidence for the underlying crime that escalated Trump’s alleged misdemeanors to felonies is still not clear and won’t be until the indictment is unsealed on Tuesday. But it is believed to relate to the payment of $130,000 in hush money to porn star Stormy Daniels during the closing weeks of the 2016 election to conceal an extramarital encounter with Trump.

After this story was posted, a spokesman for Trump said the former president’s legal team has not seen the indictment or been briefed on the details. Trump himself responded with a post on TruthSocial.

“Wow! District Attorney Bragg just illegally LEAKED the various points, and complete information, on the pathetic Indictment against me,” Trump wrote. “I know the reporter and so, unfortunately, does he. This means that he MUST BE IMMEDIATELY INDICTED. Now, if he wants to really clean up his reputation, he will do the honorable thing and, as District Attorney, INDICT HIMSELF. He will go down in Judicial history, and his Trump Hating wife will be, I am sure, very proud of him!”

A spokesperson for Bragg said in an email that the District Attorney's office "declined to comment on a sealed indictment."

This is one unnamed source at this point. If true WOW, if not Yahoo News has big time egg on their face.


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03 Apr 2023, 8:47 pm

Wut?

What’s new info? :?

Everything in that article has been in news video clips over the last couple days.

What is trump pretending was leaked? :?


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03 Apr 2023, 9:42 pm

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Wut?

What’s new info? :?

Everything in that article has been in news video clips over the last couple days.

What is trump pretending was leaked? :?

What was leaked was over 30 counts, not 34 felonies.


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