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29 Feb 2012, 1:03 am

I just read TJ Lane is not a victim of bullying, has friends, makes good grades and this shooting rampage may have been over a girl.

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29 Feb 2012, 2:51 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

I just read TJ Lane is not a victim of bullying, has friends, makes good grades and this shooting rampage may have been over a girl.

, now that's unusual.

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29 Feb 2012, 3:51 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:

I just read TJ Lane is not a victim of bullying, has friends, makes good grades and this shooting rampage may have been over a girl.

, now that's unusual.

Yeah, it's usually just a smack in the mouth.

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29 Feb 2012, 4:38 am

Dailymail: Dressed in a bulletproof vest: Ohio school 'outcast gunman' in first court appearance as THIRD classmate dies of wounds

Short story: Bullied outcast looses it and shoots tormentors.

No surprise for me at least. Why has so little been learned from the WP: Columbine High School massacre in 1999 ..??

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29 Feb 2012, 4:42 am

Good for him. Bullies are as*holes. :lol:

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29 Feb 2012, 4:50 am

That is sad. Its also sad how bullying is ignored in schools.

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29 Feb 2012, 5:00 am

Just keep thinking that if he resolved the issue differently. He would not have to sit in jail for the rest of his life. Which I presume is the legal response.

The actions so far will only result in regular shootings, nothing else. Those that do not learn from history will repeat it.

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29 Feb 2012, 6:07 am

Keyman wrote:

Just keep thinking that if he resolved the issue differently. He would not have to sit in jail for the rest of his life. Which I presume is the legal response. The actions so far will only result in regular shootings, nothing else. Those that do not learn from history will repeat it.

history may not exactly repeat itself, but it surely rhymes. :idea:

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29 Feb 2012, 6:20 am

Does the US recognise temporary insanity as a plea, because it sounds like that's what it was?

So 3rd bully dies? One less a***hole to waste oxygen. Hope he doesn't waste too many years locked up.

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29 Feb 2012, 7:21 am

Is it just me or are people actually defending the shooter?

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29 Feb 2012, 7:26 am

donnie_darko wrote:

Is it just me or are people actually defending the shooter?

Looks like it. Violence is overrated, but glorified in the US. So what do you expect?

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29 Feb 2012, 7:26 am

@ AoS and Raptor:

Want to know how to really gut a UK based gun control enthusiast? Forget all the other countries, simply graph English violent crime rates over the years as they phased in progressively more stringent gun control and see what the effects of the new laws were. England never really had much of a violent crime rate when you could own a gun there, most if not all of their firearms laws were rammed through by fear-mongering after some high profile shootings rather than as a response to a high crime rate. If gun control really was responsible for lower violent crime rates, you'd expect violence to drop in any country that was enacting more of it while keeping everything else more or less the same, but that's not what you see with England or any other country that has adopted gun control as a crime preventative measure; it simply does not work for that.

Also, knock them off that "gun crime" BS, violence is violence and focusing on the tools is just a smokescreen.

I'm on a WP sabbatical at the moment, but I'm glad to see that the RKBA debate is in good hands in my absence.

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29 Feb 2012, 7:29 am

donnie_darko wrote:

Is it just me or are people actually defending the shooter?

It's this forum; label someone a "bully" and half the board will start calling for blood. For the real calls for violence though, there needs to be some animal abuse involved; human life isn't as passionately valued around here.

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29 Feb 2012, 7:35 am

And why should human life be passionately valued?

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29 Feb 2012, 7:37 am

eigerpere wrote:

And why should human life be passionately valued?

Shouldn't all life be valued?

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29 Feb 2012, 7:41 am

kojot wrote:

eigerpere wrote:

And why should human life be passionately valued?

Shouldn't all life be valued?

Should? What does should have to do with it.

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