Ohio, Chardon High School shooting, 3 dead.

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lizzie borden did it with a hatchet...

julius ceasar was murdered with knives...

Murder existed long before fire arms... Guns just make it easier.

Dear Feralucce, you are absolutely correct, guns are faster, but these people WILL find a way, have been doing so for thousands of years. Gun control may slow them down, but it's back to explosions, arson,mass poisonings( remember the Sri Rajneesh group in Oregon..his followers poisoned the salad bars in local restaurants!)

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I don't think anyone or everyone is capable of such a crime. Most people probably not or we would have an awful lot of dead people. Just be careful who you bully because you never know if that person is capable of giving it back to you in a very lethal way.

Exactly.

I would argue that most people could be pushed to the point they would do horrible things.

It's the bullies usually too who are the ones capable of it and accounts very much for all the aggression. They can dish it out but they can't take it.

Most people feel like it, but no, most people probably aren't capable of going the distance to do something like that. As I said, there would be an awful lot more of these crimes if that were true.

Everyone is capable of such a crime. All that is required are: (1) The means to commit the crime; (2) Sufficient motivation to commit the crime; (3) The opportunities to commit the crime, or the victims to commit the crime against; and (4) The ability to hold and operate a firearm.

Example: The shooting of Kayla Rolland occurred at Buell Elementary School in Mount Morris Township, Michigan, United States on February 29, 2000. Six-year-old Dedric Darnell Owens fatally shot six-year old classmate Kayla Renee Rolland in a stairwell before being taken into police custody. The incident began when 6-year-old Dedric Owens brought his uncle's .32-caliber handgun (The Means) to Buell Elementary School. Owens fatally shot 6-year-old Kayla Rolland (The Victim) in the presence of a teacher and 22 students while they were moving up a floor on the stairs (The Opportunity), saying to her "I don't like you" (The Motivation) before pulling the trigger (The Ability).

Due to Dedric Darnell Owens' age (Born on May 5, 1993) and the legal claim that at that age he would have the lack of ability to form intent, Dedric Darnell Owens got away with the murder. In most U.S. states, six-year-olds are not liable for crimes they commit. In an 1893 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court declared that "children under the age of 7 years could not be guilty of felony, or punished for any capital offense, for within that age the child is conclusively presumed incapable of committing a crime." This is followed in many U.S. states.

Jamelle James, who owned the .32-caliber semiautomatic pistol, eventually pleaded no contest to involuntary manslaughter and spent 2 years and 5 months in prison.

Well I would very much like to think that, but I can understand wanting to take out the pain and frustration of things like being bullied and such on the environment/people they feel is/are causing it. I never resorted to such a thing, but that was more due to wanting to stubberonly stick to my morals of not ending up doing something just as bad or worse than things that have been done to me.......rather then the lack of those sorts of dangerous feelings.

Typically and I really do hate to say it the bullies, are the ones pushing the individuals who take things to far in a lot of instances rather then the outcast being treated like an outcast who eventually has had enough. I mean why do you think that girl in my class told me she was surprised I wasn't the psychopath with the gun during the lockdown at my school? That said in that instance the person was not a student and no one really knows what provoked them or anything...so what I say does not apply to all instances.

I think suicide and homocide are the two things anyone could be pushed to commit for the most part......of course under the right conditions. Some people simply never experience the conditions that allow for it, some people do but for whatever reason have enough control not to act on it some people don't have that control...then of course there are the rare individuals who enjoy causing pain and misery for others, or maybe not so rare who knows.

But there is no way for me to prove it so it certainly remains open to debate.

I used to think everyone was just like me too but it just isn't so. You may be capable of those things but it doesn't mean everyone is. You should speak for yourself more often and not assume the whole world of human beings are just the same as you. I used to think everyone was honest. It actually took a while for me to understand that people actually lie for no reason at all. And they destroy other people's live too for no reason and don't care about it. Guns and physical violence isn't the only way people destroy other people. There are also legal ways.

I have experienced the conditions in the worst way, more than once, so I know what I'm talking about. We should just speak for ourselves then and that way there will be no arguments. I'm speaking for myself and based on that your statement isn't true.

I never said everyone is just like me. I said that everyone is capable of such a crime. "Just like me" would imply that you are my clone, which you are not.


Everyone is, but not everyone may want to be. Most may only be fooling themselves when they say, "Not me!".


Again, I have posted no such assumption - you have.


Like falsely claiming that someone has posted something that they never did.

Saying that everyone is capable is saying everyone is just like you. Why would you think it if it wasn't just like you? If you aren't capable then why would you say everyone else is? Is everyone else capable except you? Then you should say everyone is capable but I might not be. You said everyone is capable. Does that not include you?

Well that is why I said for the most part, I can't prove it really its just my opinion based on the knowledge I have. Also the conditions that drive people to these kinds of things can vary quite a bit. But I cannot tell someone how they feel or if they've ever felt like doing something so horrible. I can just say in my experience I've had thoughts and did not act on them at least when it came to harming others.

I'm not capable of it therefore everyone isn't capable of it. People draw a lot of conclusions based on who they are.