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18 Feb 2012, 5:38 pm

When I saw this, I was shocked and upset about what happened to these Buddhas from the Maldives. The Maldives used to be buddhist until it became Muslim in AD 1153. During the Maldivian coup recently, Wahabi Kharijite Extremists destroyed the entire collection of Maldivian buddhist statues. This was very similar to the destruction of the Buddhas of Bamiyan in Afghanistan by the Taliban. Many moderate muslims condemed this like the Muslim Governer of the western province of Sri Lanka, Alavi Moulana. Because of this, we have lost a heritage that was an epitone of Maldivian culture. Click here for more information. No Islamophobic comments!! ! because it is not Islam that is responsible for the destruction of these buddhas but a fringe group of lunatic Kharijite Wahabi extremists. here is a video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xva6s51Lavg[/youtube]



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18 Feb 2012, 5:39 pm

Just remember, it's only a few Muslims who have these views and commit these atrocities.



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18 Feb 2012, 5:44 pm

Tequila wrote:
Just remember, it's only a few Muslims who have these views and commit these atrocities.


These so called Muslims who commited these attroities are not Muslims, They are Kharijites.



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18 Feb 2012, 5:48 pm

Laconvivencia wrote:
These so called Muslims who commited these attroities are not Muslims, They are Kharijites.


Which is a sect of Islam, right? So they are Muslims. Just because they do things that other Muslims do not agree with doesn't mean they aren't Muslims.



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18 Feb 2012, 6:13 pm

Tequila wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
These so called Muslims who commited these attroities are not Muslims, They are Kharijites.
Which is a sect of Islam, right? So they are Muslims. Just because they do things that other Muslims do not agree with doesn't mean they aren't Muslims.


No they are not Muslims. watch this video.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kVRRLOuHGg&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]



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18 Feb 2012, 6:22 pm

I think that it's very silly to say that these people aren't Muslims. There is a very old tradition of Muslims destroying what they regard as idols, beginning with Mohammed himself!

In Islam, shirk is the only crime that God cannot forgive. Shirk is the worship or deification of anything other than God.

There is an urge in any religion to see other religions as worthless and dangerous. And so there should be! After all, those religions are wrong! :roll:



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18 Feb 2012, 6:23 pm

I think the point of this thread was to discuss the destruction of religious relics, and not to argue over what makes a person a real muslim.



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18 Feb 2012, 6:24 pm

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I think that it's very silly to say that these people aren't Muslims.


Indeed. I quote the wiki, which itself refers to them as "various Muslims who, while initially supporting the authority of the final Rashidun Caliph Ali ibn Abi Talib, the son-in-law and cousin of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, then later rejected his leadership."



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18 Feb 2012, 6:25 pm

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I think that it's very silly to say that these people aren't Muslims. There is a very old tradition of Muslims destroying what they regard as idols, beginning with Mohammed himself! In Islam, shirk is the only crime that God cannot forgive. Shirk is the worship or deification of anything other than God. There is an urge in any religion to see other religions as worthless and dangerous. And so there should be! After all, those religions are wrong! :roll:


Islam has been hijacked by Saudi Wahabis the same way that zionism has hijacked Judaism.



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18 Feb 2012, 7:12 pm

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Islam has been hijacked by Saudi Wahabis


If you think in this way, you will reach ridiculous conclusions. Mohammed destroyed idols. Does that mean that Mohammed hijacked Islam?



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19 Feb 2012, 6:11 am

Declension wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
Islam has been hijacked by Saudi Wahabis


If you think in this way, you will reach ridiculous conclusions. Mohammed destroyed idols. Does that mean that Mohammed hijacked Islam?


Click here to Read this article!



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19 Feb 2012, 8:33 am

Tequila wrote:
Just remember, it's only a few Muslims who have these views and commit these atrocities.


And most of the other Muslims keep their heads down and their mouths shut. Which is why the extremists can get away with what they get away with. Very few Muslims protest the extremists loudly and publicly. Which is why we did NOT have a Million American Muslim March against religious fanaticism following 9/11.

Islam will never purge itself of what ails it. It will have to be done from the outside.

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19 Feb 2012, 9:01 am

ruveyn wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Just remember, it's only a few Muslims who have these views and commit these atrocities.


And most of the other Muslims keep their heads down and their mouths shut. Which is why the extremists can get away with what they get away with. Very few Muslims protest the extremists loudly and publicly. Which is why we did NOT have a Million American Muslim March against religious fanaticism following 9/11.

Islam will never purge itself of what ails it. It will have to be done from the outside.

ruveyn


Stop being Islamophobic. A well known Sufi Muslim scholor called Dr Tahir Ul Qadri has issued a 512-page fatwa on Terrorism in 2010. this Fatwa prooves that terrorism is against the teachings of Islam. He recently came to Wembley stadium on September 2011 for the Peace for Humanity Conference. Tahir Ul Qadri belongs to a peaceful and tolerant branch of Islam called Sufism. No Terrorists are Sufis.



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19 Feb 2012, 9:10 am

ruveyn wrote:
Tequila wrote:
Just remember, it's only a few Muslims who have these views and commit these atrocities.


And most of the other Muslims keep their heads down and their mouths shut.


Indeed. There are small groups here in the UK, like the British Muslims for Secular Democracy, that have taken part in anti-Sharia protests but they are completely unheard of amongst the general public.



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19 Feb 2012, 9:13 am

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Stop being Islamophobic.


And at this point it's best to stop arguing with you.

These people who did this were Muslims. The vast majority of Muslims would not do what these guys did... but they are still Muslims. Islam does need to secularise itself, like Christianity had to. At the moment it is threatening and we don't like it.



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19 Feb 2012, 9:30 am

Tequila wrote:
Laconvivencia wrote:
Stop being Islamophobic.
And at this point it's best to stop arguing with you. These people who did this were Muslims. The vast majority of Muslims would not do what these guys did... but they are still Muslims. Islam does need to secularise itself, like Christianity had to. At the moment it is threatening and we don't like it.


Islam has been Hijacked. The Kharijite cut and paste verses from the Koran and take them out of context. Terrorism has no place In Islam. Mosques should stop recieving Saudi Wahabi fundings and Muslims should stop going to universities in Saudi Arabia. Muslims should return to the Tolerant classical Islam of the Ottomans or the peaceful tolerant Sufi Muslim traditions of South Asia.