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CSBurks
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16 May 2012, 2:44 am

Billybones wrote:
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It's a private property rights issue. It's my money; ergo, I can spend it how I want.

If you really want to fix the country, abolish the government.


According to this sort of reasoning, property rights are considered absolute & supersede all other rights or imperatives. It's a fallacy, & additionally it's inimical to a functioning democratic state.

The property right must reign supreme - even if it subverts democratic governance, even if it results in economic monopoly, even if it pollutes air & water & ruins the land, even if it results in discrimination. But none of these matter; none are considered to be within the legitimate scope of government to regulate - the free market must always reign supreme. The ideology must be applied always, without regard to the real-world implications.

It's such a callow, sophistic way of thinking. It's really sad that the hard right has managed to hijack the language of liberty & individual rights. Even sadder that so many people have bought into it. Because it's the left, not the right, that has traditionally fought for individual rights & dignity.


What other rights are you referring to?

All rights ultimately originate from property rights, i.e. your person is your property.

Ergo, I must oppugn your argument.



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16 May 2012, 11:51 am

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Primary Election outcomes are not determined completely by donations. Ron Paul's program to dissolve government handouts does not go down with many voters. Even Republic voters like there little goodies and handouts from the Government.

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Again, what does Ron Paul have to do with cutting government handouts?

California, the ninth largest economy in the world, resorts to austerity

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Welfare payments, healthcare for the poor, and benefits for elderly and disabled Californians will be immediately slashed by around $8.3bn (£5.2bn), which equates to roughly 17 per cent of Mr Brown's entire discretionary budget. And state offices, which employ roughly 200,000 people, will switch to a four-day, 38-hour work week.


That vile Ron Paul!


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