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15 Dec 2012, 6:59 pm

and shouldn't I add that the Bushmaster rifle was never used, just brought it to the scene of the crime. a


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15 Dec 2012, 7:05 pm

if the henry repeating rifle, the enfield blackpowder rifle and the shotgun are all back at the house...

the AR-15 is not used but the two very recent and rapid handguns are, and he had plenty of clips,

expect gun control regulations to be tightened a.s.a.p in terms of one's background and mindframe.

the nightly national news said the poor woman had homeschooled him. he may have been very isolated.



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15 Dec 2012, 7:28 pm

I still think that the main problem was that his mom taught him how to use a gun, and provided them to him. Who teaches someone who does not feel pain (as his baseball teammates reported) how to use a weapon, unless they plan on creating a killer?



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15 Dec 2012, 9:06 pm

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I really wish these anti-bullying ads would actually reflect situations like this.

You see this shooter as a monster. Now here's all the people in his life who bullied and abused him until he finally snapped and lost his mind. Bullying can kill people. :x

So very much agree!



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15 Dec 2012, 9:21 pm

Issit wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
I really wish these anti-bullying ads would actually reflect situations like this.

You see this shooter as a monster. Now here's all the people in his life who bullied and abused him until he finally snapped and lost his mind. Bullying can kill people. :x

So very much agree!


Actually, bullying victims aren't usually the ones that go on to kill people (that's one of the biggest myths of the columbine tragedy, actually). Bullying victims, however, do sometimes kill themselves-the fact that this does not stop bullies makes me sick.



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15 Dec 2012, 9:31 pm

Evinceo wrote:
Issit wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
I really wish these anti-bullying ads would actually reflect situations like this.

You see this shooter as a monster. Now here's all the people in his life who bullied and abused him until he finally snapped and lost his mind. Bullying can kill people. :x

So very much agree!


Actually, bullying victims aren't usually the ones that go on to kill people (that's one of the biggest myths of the columbine tragedy, actually). Bullying victims, however, do sometimes kill themselves-the fact that this does not stop bullies makes me sick.

Usually.
But I know at least one mass killer (Olga Hepnerova..I talked about her here before)
who was bullied and who killed to stop the bullies..well, as a society, as she felt all the people within it were gulity)
Adam I bet was in a way similar.

IDK, it is sad to see children cry , being hurt and dead.
But personally I am so tired of humanity, of people being cruel and coldhearted,
that..I kind of just want to understand.
No one kills oneself if there is not a very serious reason for that.
(of course he went there to die)



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15 Dec 2012, 10:15 pm

Evinceo wrote:
I still think that the main problem was that his mom taught him how to use a gun, and provided them to him. Who teaches someone who does not feel pain (as his baseball teammates reported) how to use a weapon, unless they plan on creating a killer?


What does what sounds like a nervous system problem have to do with a persons propensity for violence?


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16 Dec 2012, 12:54 pm

Sunday, news plastered all over about Aspergers / Autism and whether or not it leads to violence.

Most news outlets using "Aspergers" even while that term has been 'retired' from shrink use.

Very few news outlets getting the fact that autism is a neurological disorder.

This has mushroomed to the point it will probably affect all of us with public perceptions being fed all kinds of misinformation.



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17 Dec 2012, 8:50 am

Monday now, the Aspergers angle has gone totally viral, being discussed everywhere. Lots of articles and "experts" now coming out.

The LEOs have not released much info so the autism angle is one of the only aspects ppl are able to grab onto to try to characterize the shooter.

It is mushrooming out there. Hopefully autism will gain broader accurate awareness but the hysteria level right now is high.

Not to mention the "doomsday prepper gun" angle being bandied.



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17 Dec 2012, 9:43 am

Gun laws and control will do nothing to prevent these events. As I have posted elsewhere, the half of the country that just voted Republican were voting against any gun regulation and against both medical and mental healthcare being a right not a privilege for the wealthy among us. So they need to SHUT THE HE11 UP.
Free access to mental health care would go much further in preventing these types of events than any new gun laws. Its easier and cheaper to buy an gun in the USA than get medical treatment for a mental health condition.. This country has serious issues when Gun Rights are more important that Rights to healthcare...


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17 Dec 2012, 10:34 am

Cascadians wrote:
Monday now, the Aspergers angle has gone totally viral, being discussed everywhere. Lots of articles and "experts" now coming out.

The LEOs have not released much info so the autism angle is one of the only aspects ppl are able to grab onto to try to characterize the shooter.

It is mushrooming out there. Hopefully autism will gain broader accurate awareness but the hysteria level right now is high.

Not to mention the "doomsday prepper gun" angle being bandied.


Now is THE WORST TIME to tell people you're neurodeviant. I still am trying to find news about possible gun bans for AS people.


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