Black federal judge gives lesson on Mississippi history

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15 Feb 2015, 6:32 pm

...and on how much more brutal and common crimes by whites against blacks were in Mississippi more than anywhere else in the nation:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/201 ... -murderers

The people of Mississippi need to own up to their history, because their state has been a scar on this country.


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15 Feb 2015, 7:27 pm

Only the people of Mississippi who took part in those atrocities need to own up to their history. The rest of the population is off the hook, especially those who were born after the last attrocity occurred.

There is no such thing as inherited guilt, or guilt that is shared just because you happen to have the same skin color as a criminal.

There will be no Reparations, and "Thirty Acres and a Mule" is just a fantasy.


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16 Feb 2015, 1:23 am

Mississippi's history is just that: History


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16 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

The problem is that Mississippi's past is an indicator of the present. Putting things in the past doesn't mean they stay there.



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18 Feb 2015, 5:30 pm

If you really think that problems like this were/are problems that only Mississippi has, you haven't done much research. I live in Mississippi, and will cede that we have problems just like any other state. In fact, I grew up in the same town that the civil rights workers were killed. But the horrible actions of a few people doesn't make the entire state a group of hate-mongering, murdering racists.

And with LGBT rights a very hot issue at the moment, there are people on both sides. Many people are in support, many are in opposition - but there are also a lot of people that are somewhere in between.

Racism, and hatred in general, is not just a Mississippi problem.



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18 Feb 2015, 8:11 pm

I didn't have a chance to read his full remarks until just now - but I urge that people read the entirety of his remarks. Below is a paragraph that I pulled, which sheds very different light on Mississippi than the OP's exceprt:

"Today we take another step away from Mississippi's tortured past ... we move farther away from the abyss. Indeed, Mississippi is a place and a state of mind. And those who think they know about her people and her past will also understand that her story has not been completely written. Mississippi has a present and a future. That present and future has promise. As demonstrated by the work of the officers within these state and federal agencies — black and white, male and female, in this Mississippi they work together to advance the rule of law. Having learned from Mississippi's inglorious past, these officials know that in advancing the rule of law, the criminal justice system must operate without regard to race, creed or color. This is the strongest way Mississippi can reject those notions — those ideas which brought us here today."



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18 Feb 2015, 9:13 pm

beneficii wrote:
The people of Mississippi need to own up to their history, because their state has been a scar on this country.


People that do the crime, are the ones to blame. No one else.



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18 Feb 2015, 10:07 pm

I agree that Mississippians of today shouldn't be held accountable for past misdeeds they are not personally responsible for. But with that, it also has to be remembered that these young men who had murdered the black man just didn't get their racial hatred out of thin air. It's clear there is still racism and hate still alive in Mississippi, just as it is in other places, and that it was passed on to these four from childhood on. It's popular today for people to dismiss racism as a thing of the past that had gone the way of Jim Crow, but if anything, that attitude only allows it to thrive.


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26 Feb 2015, 4:39 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I agree that Mississippians of today shouldn't be held accountable for past misdeeds they are not personally responsible for. But with that, it also has to be remembered that these young men who had murdered the black man just didn't get their racial hatred out of thin air. It's clear there is still racism and hate still alive in Mississippi, just as it is in other places, and that it was passed on to these four from childhood on. It's popular today for people to dismiss racism as a thing of the past that had gone the way of Jim Crow, but if anything, that attitude only allows it to thrive.



Agreed.



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28 Feb 2015, 2:48 pm

Talk about beating a dead horse.

He killed someone, and got two life sentences.

Now we have to drag him out of jail, and let a negro President, a negro Attorney General, a negro US Attorney, and a negro Federal Judge play negro revenge. I think a negro Head of Federal Prisons was mentioned. They made press, a show trial, and gave him fifty years.

This is an example of Racism.

I think he plead guilty, and walked out of Parchman Farm, and into Federal Aryan Nations Prison. It beats being in Parchman Farm which is near 99% negro. So now he gets protection, better food, medical, dental, education, and upon release from the Federal System, Mississippi will likely release him.

They really have a hard on for getting a Civil Rights conviction in Mississippi, and fifty years for a Hate Crime will not hold up when the Republicans take office. It will be reduced on appeal, he will walk in seven.

The South is Black, very Black, and crime is mostly Black on Black, next Black on White, and we are intolerant. Just New Orleans, most years about 400 Blacks are killed by Blacks. Mostly it is revenge for a recent killing.

Jackson, Memphis, Atlanta, Mobile, Houston, and a hundred other cities Blacks are killing Blacks, because Whites are racist. All of that raping, robbing, murder'en is because White People are Racist.

Arresting Blacks for being a felon in possession of a firearm, while robbing a store, killing clerks, customers, people on the street, is just Racism.

The most dangerous time to be Black is when released from prison, within a year most will be back or dead, because white people are racist.

Two thirds of Blacks are just fine folks, hard working law abiding, and the other third commits almost all crime. Nation wide, they filled most jail cells. Now Mexicans are coming in to fill more jails. After their American Felony conviction, serving time, we deport 2,000,000 a year. Because white people are racist.

The only answer is open borders, open the jails, and let people be free.



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28 Feb 2015, 4:53 pm

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Talk about beating a dead horse.

He killed someone, and got two life sentences.

Now we have to drag him out of jail, and let a negro President, a negro Attorney General, a negro US Attorney, and a negro Federal Judge play negro revenge. I think a negro Head of Federal Prisons was mentioned. They made press, a show trial, and gave him fifty years.

This is an example of Racism.

I think he plead guilty, and walked out of Parchman Farm, and into Federal Aryan Nations Prison. It beats being in Parchman Farm which is near 99% negro. So now he gets protection, better food, medical, dental, education, and upon release from the Federal System, Mississippi will likely release him.

They really have a hard on for getting a Civil Rights conviction in Mississippi, and fifty years for a Hate Crime will not hold up when the Republicans take office. It will be reduced on appeal, he will walk in seven.

The South is Black, very Black, and crime is mostly Black on Black, next Black on White, and we are intolerant. Just New Orleans, most years about 400 Blacks are killed by Blacks. Mostly it is revenge for a recent killing.

Jackson, Memphis, Atlanta, Mobile, Houston, and a hundred other cities Blacks are killing Blacks, because Whites are racist. All of that raping, robbing, murder'en is because White People are Racist.

Arresting Blacks for being a felon in possession of a firearm, while robbing a store, killing clerks, customers, people on the street, is just Racism.

The most dangerous time to be Black is when released from prison, within a year most will be back or dead, because white people are racist.

Two thirds of Blacks are just fine folks, hard working law abiding, and the other third commits almost all crime. Nation wide, they filled most jail cells. Now Mexicans are coming in to fill more jails. After their American Felony conviction, serving time, we deport 2,000,000 a year. Because white people are racist.

The only answer is open borders, open the jails, and let people be free.


I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic.


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01 Mar 2015, 10:58 am

DevilInPgh wrote:
The problem is that Mississippi's past is an indicator of the present. Putting things in the past doesn't mean they stay there.


Do you have evidence of Federally Indictable Offense in Old Miss? If not, you are simply ranting.

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