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08 Oct 2023, 11:23 am
08 Oct 2023, 12:16 pm
Seems these Palistinians have been having to fight for their home and property, even the lives of their families for a very long time ..Perhaps Iraelis could put forth a peace initiative. And return conquered territories .
Not instigating more fighting . 
... In the US ,we will be only presented pro USA & their puppets media.
It is necessary , in order to resolve something to do so , in a realistic and understanding manner , I feel . Considering
both side of a real life situations , Not just considering only one POV , the othersides POV aswell .
Without bias one sided """inflammitory retoric .""" 
It is my understanding that these Palestinians are actually just reacting to untenable circumstances . IMHO
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08 Oct 2023, 2:10 pm
08 Oct 2023, 2:49 pm
When you destroy .. an entire peoples country, or even just one persons home under victimizing circumstances
including using violence and murder .. It could be construed ..that you might be creating a situation that is primed to radicalize people . And then even though you are the country using terror tactics to abolish a country. AND. you have control of the bulk of the" available media" in the world ,in one way or another. You can easily make the people on the other side ,out to be terrorists . Just for defending their home and people . And if it becomes a War , which it has
And their country has few assets to defend itself . Then those people might retaliate using unconventional methods.?
These Palestinians culture and existence is based in reality, over thousands of years old , But the biblical concepts of Israel and Christianity are not even in the same Century as Palestinians . Israel 1967, Palestine 1000 years or more before Christ . But I am no scholar on these topics.. But might feel disrespected if someone stole my home.
And the US has used these exact methods to get the political objectives attained . ie. 9/11 and Sadam Hussein and entire country of Iraq . But needed 9/11 as an excuse to the US population . 
The Jordanians have ended up on the short end of the stick aswell. Having to recieve thousands of Palistinians
as refugees .. It is a wonder that Jordan and Israel have not ended up in a War, Aswell.
Not sure whom to credit this Quote to," One mans freedom fighter is another mans Terrorist"
and it appears to be a valid observation even today. Am regretable to write .
08 Oct 2023, 3:14 pm
including using violence and murder .. It could be construed ..that you might be creating a situation that is primed to radicalize people . And then even though you are the country using terror tactics to abolish a country. AND. you have control of the bulk of the" available media" in the world ,in one way or another. You can easily make the people on the other side ,out to be terrorists . Just for defending their home and people . And if it becomes a War , which it has
And their country has few assets to defend itself . Then those people might retaliate using unconventional methods.?
These Palestinians culture and existence is based in reality, over thousands of years old , But the biblical concepts of Israel and Christianity are not even in the same Century as Palestinians . Israel 1967, Palestine 1000 years or more before Christ . But I am no scholar on these topics.. But might feel disrespected if someone stole my home.
And the US has used these exact methods to get the political objectives attained . ie. 9/11 and Sadam Hussein and entire country of Iraq . But needed 9/11 as an excuse to the US population .
The Jordanians have ended up on the short end of the stick aswell. Having to recieve thousands of Palistinians
as refugees .. It is a wonder that Jordan and Israel have not ended up in a War, Aswell.
Not sure whom to credit this Quote to," One mans freedom fighter is another mans Terrorist"
and it appears to be a valid observation even today. Am regretable to write .
In my opinion, what it really boils down to is that Isrealis are more "white" than Palestinians. Selling angry Muslims is a hard sell in many circumstances, even if someone's house is being blown out of existence.
08 Oct 2023, 5:37 pm
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08 Oct 2023, 7:48 pm
I don't know enough about why they're even fighting each other forever. Complicated, I'm sure. Doesn't make sense that both sides can't just go about their lives living and letting live vs. shelling each other.
I read this morning that hamas launched 5,000 rockets into Israel from Gaza. That's a lot. Apparently funded by Iran.
And the USA funds Israel I guess. So now they've gotta send money and resources there, too ? And will they go level Iran for funding this ? And will China watch on to see what happens and see what resources the USA even has to deploy what with all the funds of the world going to hold putin back in Ukraine ? I'd imagine China's watching to see what hamas can get away with to gauge what, if anything, the world will do if they go storm Taiwan right now.
Probably more wars and territorial disputes bubbling up around the world right now.. what better time to do whatever you want than when the whole world's resources are battling putin in Ukraine.
I read that Ukraine provided the missiles. Guess they had a surplus, thanks to the stupid US of A.
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08 Oct 2023, 7:55 pm
I don't know enough about why they're even fighting each other forever. Complicated, I'm sure. Doesn't make sense that both sides can't just go about their lives living and letting live vs. shelling each other.
I read this morning that hamas launched 5,000 rockets into Israel from Gaza. That's a lot. Apparently funded by Iran.
And the USA funds Israel I guess. So now they've gotta send money and resources there, too ? And will they go level Iran for funding this ? And will China watch on to see what happens and see what resources the USA even has to deploy what with all the funds of the world going to hold putin back in Ukraine ? I'd imagine China's watching to see what hamas can get away with to gauge what, if anything, the world will do if they go storm Taiwan right now.
Probably more wars and territorial disputes bubbling up around the world right now.. what better time to do whatever you want than when the whole world's resources are battling putin in Ukraine.
I read that Ukraine provided the missiles. Guess they had a surplus, thanks to the stupid US of A.
What? Provided the missiles to Hamas? That's ridiculous, as I've never heard of any connection between Ukraine and Hamas, and the very idea of it is illogical, as Ukraine needs every ordinance they can get their hands on. If anything, President Zelensky stated Israel had the right to defend themselves as soon as the fighting started. On top of that, I fail to see why a Jew like Zelensky would side with Anti-Semites like Hamas.
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08 Oct 2023, 8:00 pm
08 Oct 2023, 8:00 pm
including using violence and murder .. It could be construed ..that you might be creating a situation that is primed to radicalize people . And then even though you are the country using terror tactics to abolish a country. AND. you have control of the bulk of the" available media" in the world ,in one way or another. You can easily make the people on the other side ,out to be terrorists . Just for defending their home and people . And if it becomes a War , which it has
And their country has few assets to defend itself . Then those people might retaliate using unconventional methods.?
These Palestinians culture and existence is based in reality, over thousands of years old , But the biblical concepts of Israel and Christianity are not even in the same Century as Palestinians . Israel 1967, Palestine 1000 years or more before Christ . But I am no scholar on these topics.. But might feel disrespected if someone stole my home.
And the US has used these exact methods to get the political objectives attained . ie. 9/11 and Sadam Hussein and entire country of Iraq . But needed 9/11 as an excuse to the US population .
The Jordanians have ended up on the short end of the stick aswell. Having to recieve thousands of Palistinians
as refugees .. It is a wonder that Jordan and Israel have not ended up in a War, Aswell.
Not sure whom to credit this Quote to," One mans freedom fighter is another mans Terrorist"
and it appears to be a valid observation even today. Am regretable to write .
In my opinion, what it really boils down to is that Isrealis are more "white" than Palestinians. Selling angry Muslims is a hard sell in many circumstances, even if someone's house is being blown out of existence.
Israel is the size of New Jersey.
For the longest time, surrounding countries wouldn't even acknowledge their right to exist. Like it or not, there is a book that has outlasted most every single book in the world, that book is the Bible. That book mentions the Jews, and their land that was given to them by God and is was initially much larger. But, in 1948, after what happened to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis, enough countries got behind them finally getting a homeland of their own again.
The Palestinians had squatted on that land after the diaspora, but I know you woke individuals just love a sqautter or anyone who doesn't do s**t, doesn't earn s**t, just takes, etc...
So, the world and every single country in the middle east hates these people over a parcel of land the size of NEW JERSEY. I'm sorry, but they should be ashamed of themselves. NEW JERSEY!
08 Oct 2023, 8:06 pm
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