This is outrageous!

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I wonder what terroristic act they thought a four year old was going to do?

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Sigh. This is so typical. Enforce the letter of the law while ignoring the original purpose. You mostly run into nonsense like this at airport security, but it seems nowhere is safe from idiocy.

having been in a situation like that, it isn't so much there is a problem with the child wearing the hoodie, but they would get into a big bruhaha at what age the 'no hoodie' rule comes into effect.

that is why there is the 'no tolerance' on so many campuses. the BIG DEAL is NOT because there are not extenuating circumstances it is because figuring out WHAT is the extenuating circumstances IS the BIG DEAL.

so, rather than argue each on a case by case basis meticulously spending energy and court time , they ban the behaviour outright and look like fools. Not much of a choice, but there it is.

Merle

Heh, typical really. I'll wager the guy doesnt dare ask the baseball cap wearers to lose the hats for fear he'll get his s**t kicked out. Its Rhyll.. its a hole. Actually, 4 or not, she probably IS deadly dangerous, and will have nicked the hubcaps off his car later for it.

Being serious.. there really is no end to jobsworth activity, and frankly it astounds me that people insist on acting like this over and over again.

This 'no hoodie' nonsense... lol
Don't they realise that they are just creating more problems further down the road?
We have those silly kinds of rules here and the kid thrown out of the mall at eleven for having his hoody up [commiting crimes or not] will definitely develop an anti social and rebellious response which will ultimately make them an anti social adult with no respect for useful rules like road laws and the like. I know that my own experiences with stupid authoritarianism as a child did nothing to foster a pro-authority teen/adult...
peace j

You are so right! Maybe, this is their way of insuring a future crop of juvenile delinquents?

am think,regardless of age,if they are going to use a no hoods rule,it should be for everyone.

am used to wear hood under eardefenders to go into the trafford centre [for sensorys' sake] but when they brought that rule in [had no idea it happened] the security people crowded around am,and forced am to take the hood off or that they would have am "escorted out",even though family were telling them am was autistic and that it was a coping tool.
why is it these places allow muslim women to wear full veils which only shows their eyes,yet won't allow someone innocent to wear a hood?

a hood is just a piece of cloth,it is not something that makes people suddenly start thieving or punching people just because they've pulled the hood up.

if they want to be fair,they should ban full face veils to as the whole point of hood banning is cameras not being able to see faces.

No, no no no no...
Fair would be letting people wear their hoods up as well, not interfering with yet more innocent freedoms, peace j

agree as well,but places will never get rid of these anti hood rules,the media has made it out that hood up equals being a thug,they're always reporting about someone who happened to be wearing a hooded top at the time of doing a crime [making sure they make it obvious that people know the person was wearing a hooded top],and there is the way they have managed to get people saying 'hoodie' instead of 'thug',if they have good enough security they shouldnt have to get people removing their hoods.

Honestly, I personally don't see what the big deal is. If a place has rules about what can and cannot be worn (and even schools have those), it should be abided by, regardless of the age of the wearer. I doubt she would have been severly inconvienced by not being allowed to wear her hood; I don't think it was raining inside. Also, from what I'm getting from this article, wearing a hat was not against the rules; thus, those wearing them were not asked.

If you go to someplace, you're supposed to follow their rules. Personal taste does not come into the issue; the business is not obligated to providing whatever service it does, and if someone is offended, they can simply leave. I am sure there are other arcade places around. And if you work at a place, you're supposed to enforce the rules. If the employee had yelled at her, I could see the issue; however, it says he "asked" (and it was a "request"), which doesn't sound like yelling to me. I doubt, had she complied with the rule, that it would have scarred her for life. I don't think it will now either. I think the mother was being too oversensitive, and if you go somewhere, you are obligated to do as you're asked, especially (and only) if the action is not going to harm you or your loved ones.

I agree. They were saying the child would be emotionally scarred because she had to take her hood down? OH NO! SHE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO WEAR A HOOD IN AN ARCADE AGAIN!

People need to grow up and quit bitching.

Australia must either be above all that s**t, or we are out of step with the rest of the idiocy going on, for I haven't seen anyone here cop it in the arse for wearing a hoodie. I wear bandannas virtually all the time, and with a thick beard I could be mistaken for a towelhead, but do I care? If anyone complains about what I'm wearing I tell them to f*ck off. My rights as an individual outweigh any that the collective state may have, and if the authorities have a problem, tough. I don't commit crimes like the governing bodies of the world do, so maybe they should wake up and smell the coffee for a change.

Could you please refrain from racist insults like 'towel head', thanx
peace j

And if caps arent banned as well, they thoroughly defeat their own purpose. A cap will often obscure facial features as viewed from above by CCTV better than a hood. The principle here is the youth of the child in question. I'm sure most of the patrons, hooded or otherwise, are reasonable non-criminal people, but they also probably arent four, so reasonable suspicion could be applied. But this is a toddler. At that age they arent even legally culpable, even if she was jacking cars and shooting people. Ergo asking her to be de-hooded was pointless.

A hat does not obscure facial features as much, unless it was fully pulled over the forehead.

Does it matter how old she was? I'm sure that they have dress code in her school (if there's a school that doesn't have one (or a uniform), I've never heard of it), which means that she, along with millions of other children, are asked to remove or adjust clothing that some higher authority deems inappropriate. Unless she is extremely rare, I don't think she'll spend the rest of her life emotionally scarred from that incident. If the rule is not fairly enforced - and fairly means enforced to everyone, not just a select group of people - where is the line drawn? To be impartial calls for keeping the same rules to everyone, regardless of their reasonable suspicion. And besides, they ended up letting her keep it on; there was no reason to be upset past that point. It would not be a big deal if the mother was not continuing to harp upon the issue.

There are millions of things wrong in this world, millions of things that are a thousand times more horrible than this instance. There are people starving, dying, being hurt in hundreds of ways. This is nothing compared to that. Nothing. She was not hurt, the issue was resolved, and honestly, I think continuing to fuss about it - not here, but by the parent - is overreacting.

I guess it would have bothered me, because I used to wear a hoody, and pull up the hood in an effort to shut out too much external stimulation, like bright lights, noise, etc. And I still think that worrying about what a child of that size is wearing is ridiculous.