How many people are seriously afraid of firearms?
I don't know who is a Marlene Fisher. Let me look that up. No dice, google yields impertinent results. Please clarify.
I am fairly certain the guy was withdrawing from crack or something similar. His hands were shaking pretty bad. He was not rational. I doubt the legal consequences of imprisonment or capital punishment ever crossed his mind. Consequences are largely unimportant to the desperate.
Yes, I did show him my empty wallet as I talked.
It was not my rational argument that swayed him. It was my lack of hostility, and lack of reaction in the face of hostility. Talking calmly was the way I failed to react in a predictable manner.
The situation was scary for me, but only after the fact when the adrenaline wore off and I worried that I might have killed him against my own will. That I have that capability in me. That's scary.
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By victimise do you just mean rob? Because that's pretty harmless, and in most places rare. Murder is worse than robbery, don't you think? I suppose if you were afraid of robbery you'd risk a higher chance of death to avoid robbery. Yeah, let's say in an American town you have a 10% chance of being robbed and a 0.1% chance of being killed, but if you carry a gun you have a 1% chance of robbery and a 1% chance of being killed. You'd probably take that even though your chances of being killed increased tenfold, because 10% is the only number you're really feeling there.
It would have been f**king brilliant if the shopkeepers were armed during the riots, I would have loved to watch the rioters get shot as they tried to steal from hard working people and burn down the homes of innocent families. The riots would have been over a lot quicker too - the pathetic half-wits wouldn't have looked so tough against an AK47, I'm sure.
In fact, a game called Shoot the Rioters would be brilliant as well. It could be the next Call of Duty
Violence only begets more violence so if shopkeepers armed themselves, criminals would also arm themselves and it would escalate the rate of crime, the situation would have been much more difficult to control if firearms had been present and many more lives of innocent people and police officers may have been lost. I believe the UK police only use guns as a last resort or if it is completely necessary to do so, It's also far easier to restrain and control a group of unarmed criminals than it is to restrain an armed criminal or a group of armed criminals. I don't believe in legalizing any weapon, let me show you a chart that proves a firearm ban is good.
I don't see the United Kingdom on that list, in fact the United Kingdom is 39th on that list, right at the bottom of the chart.
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I don't see the United Kingdom on that list, in fact the United Kingdom is 39th on that list, right at the bottom of the chart.
Let me show you some events from the real world:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-i ... t-15868104
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sh ... e-15895374
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15815271
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-15803471
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-15788211
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-15754020
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no ... e-15739686
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-15712585
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15705847
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15681296
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-15666999
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15520006
And that's just from this month, and it's not even everything. Each of those articles is about a separate shooting somewhere in the UK.
And what about attacks using knives instead of guns? Well, s**t, there's loads of those too. Again, this is just from the past month, and each article refers to a separate incident within the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15927548
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-be ... s-15926734
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-15918233
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-i ... t-15915972
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15902509
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15873652
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-15860980
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-15860112
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-15854224
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15837521
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-15818648
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15820473
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15814411
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15814185
...And I could go on with that one, too, but frankly it's too depressing and I have better things I could be doing.
Point is, don't fool yourself into thinking the UK is a safe place just because guns are illegal. As has been repeated many times, criminals still have them and, in many times during the past month alone, shoot people with them, and if they can't get guns or don't want to, they'll use an alternate weapon instead.
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Now there is something missing in this thread too.
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Bulls**t, I was able to find 12 shootings in the last month alone from one search on the BBC site, and if I dug around Google News I'm sure I could find a damn lot more. Graphs don't mean anything, statistics are easily manipulated, and I don't even know the source of your information. Look at actual real world incidents from reputable news sources.
The chart gives 14 murders with firearms for that year - why would you think they didn't happen in the real world? who said they didn't happen in the real world, with real blood, real damage to a human body, real death and real mourning and grief? All f*****g real. But 14 horrific times, not 10,000 horrific times.
And I just found 12 shootings in the past month alone from a simple BBC search...
Out of a population of how many? Only 12 shootings seems like a very low number.
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And I just found 12 shootings in the past month alone from a simple BBC search...
SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)
And I just found 12 shootings in the past month alone from a simple BBC search...
SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)
2002 you say? Why use such outdated stats? My detailed reports of each incident are from the very last month. What things were like in 2002 bares very little relevance almost a whole decade later.
And I just found 12 shootings in the past month alone from a simple BBC search...
SOURCE: The Eighth United Nations Survey on Crime Trends and the Operations of Criminal Justice Systems (2002) (United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Centre for International Crime Prevention)
2002 you say? Why use such outdated stats? My detailed reports of each incident are from the very last month. What things were like in 2002 bares very little relevance almost a whole decade later.
Yeah cos gun crime has gone down a lot in those years in the US????
In 2010 - the latest year for which detailed statistics are available - there were 12,996 murders in the US. Of those, 8,775 were caused by firearms.
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